…if you take drugs would you not mind if your kids do when they get older ????
myself ..i hope my kids dont even smoke ….i only smoke when im out on the razz..noone smokes in my house , i have done drugs an i take pills when im out more to keep me awake !once amonth or so thats it …
discuss….:love:
as a parent it’s not a question of ‘do i mind?’… the question is ‘are my kids getting what they need to become balanced people who can make difficult decisions about what is right for them, from me? if not, who are they getting it from?’
if they take drugs (and lets face it, they will, even if that drug is cafeine or sugar or alcohol) i hope they will feel they can talk to me about it and listen to some of the advice i will give
parents who aren’t clued up about drugs and are scared about them really can make stupid decisions when their child does drugs, this happens particularly in older parents… some of me mates parents are proper suspicious to the point where they cant show emotion or normal teenager mood swings without i being suspected of a substance. thats me as well to some extent.
parents like i just mentioned don’t seem to get that drugs are a part of our society now, and most kids are gonna take ’em at some point…
if they take drugs (and lets face it, they will, even if that drug is cafeine or sugar or alcohol) i hope they will feel they can talk to me about it and listen to some of the advice i will give
I agree very much on that one..
Very well said 🙂
I have handled drugs information for children on request from the parents. I find young people respond best to a no bollocks approach to the issue. I dont ever say to them ‘don’t take drugs’; I say these are the risks of the drug you are trying at the moment.
The youth of today are encountering drugs earlier and earlier at school, etc.
There is no mileage left in the just say no approach and the scare tactics are see through. Lets give them the full information [effects and risks] and allow them to make up their own minds. They are almost all capable of making informed decisions – they are having all kinds of life determining choices on them at a young age.
NB the young folk I have been involved in counselling were as young as 11 [10 years ago] and all of them have chosen to leave dabbling with drugs till they were adults as far as I know. Some have never dabbled in drugs again. Like I said – the full disclosure can be very off-putting to the young :crazy:
parents like i just mentioned don’t seem to get that drugs are a part of our society now, and most kids are gonna take ’em at some point…
not all kids….
The youth of today are encountering drugs earlier and earlier at school, etc.
There is no mileage left in the just say no approach and the scare tactics are see through. Lets give them the full information [effects and risks] and allow them to make up their own minds. They are almost all capable of making informed decisions – they are having all kinds of life determining choices on them at a young age.
NB the young folk I have been involved in counselling were as young as 11 [10 years ago] and all of them have chosen to leave dabbling with drugs till they were adults as far as I know. Some have never dabbled in drugs again. Like I said – the full disclosure can be very off-putting to the young :crazy:
yeah i think when you take the mystery away ..it can make it less likely that they want to try it …in schools now they are learning all about drugs which is about time …im open with my kids about them ..education is what is needed …
p.s we know caffeine an cigs are drugs but its not illegal is it …im talking drug drugz…:crazy_dru
I dont think its just “drugs, drugs” that you should mention, i rememebr in school kids were sniffing glue and aerosols before the school had really ever mentioned anything to us about drugs.
I think its natural to worry about what your children do, i also think its natural for children to experiment with thing, even more so if it something they are not supposed to do.
Just because its legal doesnt stop it being a drug. The line between legal and illegal is defined by political convenience and vested financial interest.
Nicotine is one of the more toxic poisons commonly available to the general public – it can easily be processed to form a deadly contact poison [absorbed through the skin] which is very fast acting.
I make no differentiation between caffeine, sugar, nictotine, speed, coke, etc – some of the legal ones are very, very bad for you and should be included in full discussions of the dangers of drugs just for safety’s sake. Otherwise we might give them the impression it is ok as long as its legal :you_crazy which is not true. If they were discovered today caffeine, sugar and nicotine would be on the illegal list as they can cause so many health problems and some of the health problems are fatal.
true that… the number of obese children, who will face serious (fatal) diseases such as diabetes and heart disease is massive and growing fast… much faster than the number of children who are taking class A drugs
the majority are at least gonna try one illegal drug sometime. give me 100 random 16 year olds and i’ll bet all the cash i got that 98 of them will have tried a spliff at least. some of the most sensible geezers i ever knew take drugs on occasion.
you’re right, not all do, and your kids may not.
Part of me says this very family oriented. Would it seem right to say “you made love in a wetsuit, what do you think about your own children doing that?”
Another part of me says “would you like your kids doing PCP?”
Another part of me says “l wouldn’t touch PCP and neither would my kids, mind you l don’t really know for sure what PCP is like”
I think it’s different strokes for different folks, but stronger drugs are just not family material anyway …
Bringing family into is kind of emotive don’t you think? :yakk: The stuff of White Papers and hurried legislation.
If a drug’s bad, it’s bad, regardless of families etc.
its natural for parents to worry about anything their children do, particularly as life becomes more and more pressurised, and perceived risks increase
my dad was a recreational drug user for much of his life; although mostly using benzodiazepines and the occasional stimulant (he was also a fairly heavy smoker).
He made no attempt whatsoever to hide this from the family, and in the end it did cause him chronic and ultimately terminal health problems (although I suspect these were exacerbated by a stressful and unhealthy lifestyle and his own personality)
My mum did try to discourage me by referring to my dads health problems – but It didn’t stop me from indulging at all.
Both my parents were once “hippies” but gave up most of their hedonism when my sister was born as things got a lot tighter financially during the late 70s/80s with two kids to support.
My dads health problems (which did not however stop him working and/or enjoying life when he could) did make me slightly more aware of my own health and is one of the reasons why today I try to regulate my lifestyle and ensure I get exercise (by cycling whenever possible), eating decent food and catching up on sleep during the week.
Both parents did also try and discourage me throughout my teenage years but this was mostly because drug use was a distraction from academic progress and in my family academic progress was seen as something of an obsession (I think the fact both my parents were teachers had something to do with this).
That said when things did go wrong and I took too much or got in trouble with the law my family still stayed by me and that IMO is the important thing. Too many families are stubborn and people become estranged over drug use; move away from their parents at too young an age and thats where they get into addiciton and crime.
I remember reading a report from the South London press where a man who had to bury his teenage daughter after an overdose regretted how he had refused to accept it when she had first started taking party drugs and kicked her out of the home..
As for “raver parents”, I feel that as you have helped contribute to this countries drug culture you have to live with it and that includes supporting your children when/if they take drugs, same as my parents did.
if or when i have children i will be the one doing their drugs education at home. and rather than discourage it i will offer advice and tell them how it is important to dose correctly and all the harm redux techniques available to try and keep them safe IF they do try them… which im not sure if i would recommend but i might u never know…. im hoping the legal and school systems will have woken up to the problems they currently face around drug use a n abuse (which are different even if the gov say it isnt) and improved their education.
peace n love
j
It’s a worry. my eldest is approaching the age of when I first got into sniffing glue and shit, but looking at him I can’t see him doing anything like that. This is the mistake all parents make. It won’t happen to my child. Do you still get travellers kids dealing at free parties?
It all depends where you live. If theres loads of crack, smack etc on the street then it’s likely they will come into contact with it and possibly try it. but what is the best way to discourage without making it look attractive?
I still use at home, but not in front of them, if I can help it. And lets face it drugs do open your mind. I hope that by making it sound ordinary it will take the mystery out of it. If/When he gets into stuff I will certainly be around to help him through any bad times, and who knows he may show me a thing or two in a few years.
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