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hello fam.i had another forced vacation.out on bond.im charged with conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance, n distribution of molly,Ive been indicted by a grand jury.i can get up to 20 years.its all talk.people talk after a guy. allegedly left. my house with a k of mandy.got pulled. over had guns n 1000g of mandy. n talked crazy, set me up.n i play the game . unlike a lot of people ill tAke. the consequences.i don’t rat
unlike. my codefendents,but wondering. if any one. has been through the US federal system before,its my first Fed crime .fitst distribution charge, if. any input id appreciate it
Although USA has less protection / human rights than Europe the legal system is based more on that in Britain in the 1700s. Firstly if you are let out on bail and have access to a mobile device to post here and not already in federal prison; you are not in as much shit as you think you may be.
the prosecutors need to prove that you had something to do with the entire kilo of molly and the firearms; I’m sure both are readily available in the part of USA you live in.
In some ways your posts on here might help you as I’ve never thought you aspired to be a big time dealer; just someone living in a poor area of USA who wanted to get substances for your own use and maybe help out a few friends. I’ve never noticed you chatting about guns either; not even amongst all the random stuff. I’ve seen more gun talk on forums / blogs about computers written by middle class Americans.
You need to get a very good lawyers who can prove these things; and hopefully can bargain that charge down to compulsory rehab or get it quashed altogether.
Unlucky bro. Wish I had something useful to say but I’m not familiar with the American justice system. Although everything GL says makes sense.
Good luck in proving your innocence mate.
i am not charged with a firearms charge .at all im just charged with conspiracy to distribute. the allegedly have 2 keys total against me and three alleged customers who got caught,with mdma in different states. testifing against me..i have. looked up many mdma cases n sentences ranged from probation. to the most severe was 16 years,an in that case a death occurred from overdose.prob dehydration….the parents of the deceased testified the defendedent tnrough a party n when the there son started seizing the defendent refused rto call for help.so he got 16years for conspiracy to distribute mdma.an his sentence was enhanced cause of the death.however in the states mdma sentence for 1 kilo of mdma equals about 1.6 kilos of cocaine.making it the third harshes penalty behind meth and heroin
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@stayawayfromafrica 566879 wrote:
i am not charged with a firearms charge .at all im just charged with conspiracy to distribute. the allegedly have 2 keys total against me and three alleged customers who got caught,with mdma in different states. testifing against me..i have. looked up many mdma cases n sentences ranged from probation. to the most severe was 16 years,an in that case a death occurred from overdose.prob dehydration….the parents of the deceased testified the defendedent tnrough a party n when the there son started seizing the defendent refused rto call for help.so he got 16years for conspiracy to distribute mdma.an his sentence was enhanced cause of the death.however in the states mdma sentence for 1 kilo of mdma equals about 1.6 kilos of cocaine.making it the third harshes penalty behind meth and heroin
They treat supplying MDMA as worse than ditributing cocaine? Or have I misunderstood that?
yes in federal system.but lately judges are treating mdma as less harmful because the scientific fact that cocaine an its base form are much more hamful n addictive than mdma.But the federal guidelines on mdma are 10 years old.An yes mdma guidelines are higher than powder cocaine.with methamphetamine being the most severe penalty 1500g equals up to life, an heroin being second
the equivalent penalty for this in the UK and most of Europe is around 5-10 years. In NL dealers only get prison if their MDMA contains bad stuff that poisons people. Even in Europe a different higher court (called Crown Court in UK) would hear a case at this level.
A kilo of MDMA or any other party drug is a very large amount; although I’ve never been a dealer (UK cops did once think I was; simply because I bought a bulk quantity to store and use over a month) I’ve known a fair few over the years and never seen anyone with that amount (and the sort of kids who act like plastic gangsters and would inform on people would not be trusted with it anyway).
Unless the USA has become a worse banana republic than some third world states; it would be very hard to prove that someone who has already spent a good part of this year in jail is able to set up deals at that level. The whole thing sounds like lazy cops trying to improve their statistics (they used to try stuff like this in Britain until it had got to the stage where there were so many dealers and not enough prison capacity they would be let out early anyway…)
This might sound like some idea from a movie script but can you get in touch with any young lawyers perhaps from minority groups/low income backgrounds who might take on this case?
i got a lawyer an this case stems from jan 2012 to feb 2014 the DEA just rapped up all the evidence in july,the day they feds.arrested me they arrested 5 of my alleged customers in different states.2 of which are testifing against me.
I supposed the difference between USA and Europe then is the authorities adding up the total of a number of small deals and/or letting things get that far – in Europe (at least for “party drugs”) they just nick the younger dealers much earlier on to scare them a bit (they get much lower sentences) and to disrupt/limit the supply for a few weeks or so; often its triggered by monitoring how many emergency hospital admissions / ambulances are called out from suspected overdoses.
round here those who get caught/sent down for trying to import kilos at a time are my age and in many cases far older. To get any significant sentence in Europe you have to be also involved with violent crime/guns or creating anti social behaviour. Not sure what the USA courts do but sentencing here can only reflect what is actually found after the labs have checked it; 50g of MDMA + 50g of chalk can only result in a conviction for 50g, not 100g…
There are similar cases to yours going through Courts in Northern Europe – mostly intelligent young men using the “dark net” to obtain bulk supplies and overestimating the security it provides (encryption does not prevent the locations of signals being traced).
Often these lads are also selling them at street level with footsoldiers in more than one country. its illegal for me to write in detail about them for a variety of reasons (sub judice and privacy laws) but those who have not got involved in anything to do with unlicensed sales of guns or fraud/blackmail/ID theft as well as drugs are extremely unlikely to get much more than 6 months to a year extra time than a “dumb” drug dealer (who did not use any computers / encryption). In many European nations outside the UK these short sentences aren’t even reported in the papers because of the privacy laws.
Someone below age 40 without previous for violent crime or other bad behaviour rarely gets any more than 5 years even for regular class A dealing of the harder/worse substances; of which around 18 months to 2.5 years is actually served in prison, the amount that results in prison has slowly edged upwards in the last 20 years; though it gets to a point where it doesn’t matter if its 100g or a kilo; the sentence remains the same. I remember a friend of mine being pulled up in the 1990s on intent to supply (UK equivalent of the offence you have been done for) for as few as 5 pills and having to go to Crown Court (he was really worried he would get prison) but in the end it was a suspended sentence/probation.
These days thats often classed as small posession and results in a caution.
I tried to work out if at the height of the rave scene in my former town (an affluent suburban town called Reading, very similar to a British version of Seattle) it was even possible for all the ravers I knew to have obtained and/or consumed a whole kilo of MDMA or powder based drugs in a year. It wasn’t; there were always periodic shortages due to busts higher up the chain; and even the higher level dealers did not carry such large amounts in one go.
@stayawayfromafrica 566916 wrote:
i got a lawyer an this case stems from jan 2012 to feb 2014 the DEA just rapped up all the evidence in july,the day they feds.arrested me they arrested 5 of my alleged customers in different states.2 of which are testifing against me.
i doubt you’re trying to grass anyone up but thats how people get out of it in america.
heard of a guy who would get caught with a 10pack in the Dead lot and then be out the next day, his name was fast eddy, or feddie, haha.
knew someone who got caught with a quarter of MDMA and <oz of shrooms he was looking at jail time and grassed up a guy with like 2 oz of pot and a plant… and payed a lawyer like 3,000$ to faciliate that with the police.
edit: cops in america are obsessed with getting the king pins.
Sad to hear this SAFA 🙁
the. fucked up thing is i was using as a lot. of chems an was a addict.an using all chems.. i was tripped out.doped out.i was out of my mind shooting heroin n crack. n doing every psych. mdma an its analogue s.im sober now.im sure. some of the long lived p.v. ers like Like GL,Psy
,remember. my post from my early days
some were incomprehensible.i thought i was invincible.its hard pill to swallow,cuz im not a bad person. no guns no violence ever,but thanks to those who support me,ill get through this. ..
rip <3
@stayawayfromafrica 566931 wrote:
the. fucked up thing is i was using as a lot. of chems an was a addict.an using all chems.. i was tripped out.doped out.i was out of my mind shooting heroin n crack. n doing every psych. mdma an its analogue s.im sober now.im sure. some of the long lived p.v. ers like Like GL,Psy
,remember. my post from my early days
some were incomprehensible.i thought i was invincible.its hard pill to swallow,cuz im not a bad person. no guns no violence ever,but thanks to those who support me,ill get through this. ..
not sure if USA can accept foreigners as character witnesses but I will openly say “for the record” that when I’ve encountered chaps like you in England on that much drugs; even if they are dealing they get so fucked they mislay their own stash of 30 pills or get so sketchy they hand back the cash you’ve paid them with (I remember this dude being that shocked I was being honest he gave me some extra). They are not big time gangsters who deal in kilos.
I outlasted a lot of these dealers on my old scene to the point cops thought I was one and had some kind of inscrutable Asian cunning plan to elude being caught; which included (alongside a young woman in a squat) training pet animals (both cats and dogs) to watch for cops.
I was in fact only meowing with my own cat to stop him being bullied by another one (this worked, but inadvertantly encouraged him to signal to me if the Police helicopter was around in the same way a drugs dog does); the young woman in town just looked after the pets of anyone who had got prison for drugs; and a Siamese cat from a posh family would visit the squat to blag food by following her back home when she was walking the dogs (which CCTV most likely recorded in the same way people make funny cat videos today for youtube).
The addicts who become low level dealers are not in a suitable mental state or the kind of people who to deal large amounts nor any threat to society; probation and restorative justice (i.e fiximg up stuff for the Council, building work for public buildings) is a better thing for them than prison time.
@General Lighting 566950 wrote:
not sure if USA can accept foreigners as character witnesses but I will openly say “for the record” that when I’ve encountered chaps like you in England on that much drugs; even if they are dealing they get so fucked they mislay their own stash of 30 pills or get so sketchy they hand back the cash you’ve paid them with (I remember this dude being that shocked I was being honest he gave me some extra). They are not big time gangsters who deal in kilos.
brings some funny stuff back into it, was really out of it and dropped a 5 strip on the floor at this guys apartment and he pointed it out. that was the days when i had to walk everywhere to sell cause i had no car as a freshman in college
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