in the ongoing efforts to find a good spot for a party, (or permission to use a good spot) i came up with an idea.
earlier this summer at one party we had, the landowner turned up in the morning asking for money for his church fund. and fair play to him.
the thought sprung to mind that we could party on his land again, if we asked everyone for a £5 donation to park (i’m sure that’s legal), with a fulll day of bands, chai and fire followed by a free party.
in this way, I hope to both provide a positively good party with a lasting impact, and a difficult one for the OB, cos it’s all in a good cause, on private land, with permission, by invitation (loopily) .
in, what? 16 hours, we could make £3000 for some brazilian street kid’s care an education… blimey! hope i’m not getting too right on
have you done something similar? can you offer any advice?
do you own some land in the south west? can you get me lord *****’s phone number?
sounds like a plan stan,
yeh they couldnt f*k u over for holding a money making gig for the unfortunate.
and i recon it would be a nice atmosphere maker, the word charity would prob most def keep the dick heads away.
ill keep me nose out for a nice spot, im sure sum farmer mates could help me out.
the charity angle is a weel rich seam to plough- i recuited bristol uni student union to help with the promotion and decoration of a few clubnights in return for promoting freedom for tibet, and donated the profits from another night to palistinian children screwed by the war. we stuck charityflyers everywher, they set up a little info booth, an my mate sat nex to em all night an sold laughing gas.- you’re right, the safe heads are attracted and the moody’s stay away. ive yet to go to or put on a moody charity event, or one, for that matter that didnt blow the roof off. obviously cant afford to do it the whole time, but its always worth it, and official bods respect you if you have done. it opens doors and displays integrity, which is rare, but be sure to actually have donated or promoted a charity if you are blagging the feds, coz otherwise they’ll get get wise and lose faith. hope it makes sense havent slept………..
Problem is i’m finding just lately that people are becoming less and less willing to donate money.
But definately a good proposition. I’m sure a few crews round the country have considered it (and pulled it off in some cases).
Good thing is that it benefits everyone all round. It also probably helps stop the flak the local council gets from irate joe public moaning about ‘iresponsible’ party goers.
I find that turning off the music while the bucket goes round can provide a useful incentive to dig deep.
🙂 Yeah that’s true. Although I notice a lot of people tend to run away… er, I mean… wander off when the bucket comes out.
charidee collections are a good idea provided they are genuine and there is evidence shown at the next event the money went to charity.
If the cops think you are blagging it you could get nicked even harsher – and if the punters think you are blagging it there is the danger of seriously bad feelings and even vigilanté action 🙁
Also charity doesn’t put you above the law (although it may make cops less likely to be so harsh).
Be also aware that your own and the charitys brand images become intertwined (sorry to use this corporate-speak but this is whats going on).
If your charity is a “political” one of any kind; there is danger that its opponents will use their “involvement with anti-social activity and the drugs culture” against the charity; eg. if the charity is something like helping out British young offenders, the homeless or drug users it would just be seen by joe public as “scum using more criminal methods to fund do-gooders”
However, collecting for the local animal sanctuary, or church roof fund may go down a bit better! Harsh but thats the way middle englands mind works (assuming you are doing this charidee lark for that reason – cynical I know, but most charity donations are given by corporates with publicity in mind so its no worse IMO)
know exactly what you’re saying. everything can be twisted against even the best intentions.
my intentions are two fold;
firstly, half the money raised is for a specific orphange in one of the poorest disticts of Rio (money will go to providing education and social workers, food and abed are paid by the state and i don’t support charities that create a dependancy culture). the other half for a cause of the landowners’ choice.
secondly, I hope that this will encourage a landowner to give permission to use land that is far enough away from any homes to create a problem.
I’ll let you know how it pans out
Originally posted by General Lighting
If your charity is a “political” one of any kind; there is danger that its opponents will use their “involvement with anti-social activity and the drugs culture” against the charity; eg. if the charity is something like helping out British young offenders, the homeless or drug users it would just be seen by joe public as “scum using more criminal methods to fund do-gooders”
Hmmm, good point mate. Never thought about that sort of thing.
Have to say we are finding it easier to get donations since we enlisted the female contingent to get on the case. may sound cynical, but it works.
talking of cynicism, any genuine charit event is unlikely to attract negative critacism, as long as the charity is registered and on board (some charitys distance temselves from fun to seem more worthy and serious). any media outlet criticising charity events isnt gonna do weel out of it….
Originally posted by USE
talking of cynicism, any genuine charit event is unlikely to attract negative critacism, as long as the charity is registered and on board (some charitys distance temselves from fun to seem more worthy and serious). any media outlet criticising charity events isnt gonna do weel out of it…. [/B]
never underestimate the power of middle England and the media for stirring up hatred. I’ve seen shitloads of negative reports against charities in the media, some of which have led to volunteers needing Police protection for their own safety!
That said it can work, but you need to choose the charity very carefully for the benefit of both parties. Its no good for them if sponsoring your event makes them lose another higher value donor as a result of adverse publicity…
I firt posted on this ages ago…
just to let anyone who’s interested that we are still aiming to go ahead with this, but that the site is proving difficult, so anyone who knows friendly farmers in devon, please do PM me or post here
GL, i understand all the points you’ve made… they are very sensible, but the charity I have in mind is a very fresh, direct organisationwith links to the Brazilian F.A. and even the Brazilizn ambassador, but the charity’s director is happy for me to go ahead with this…
I’ll let you know how it pans out 😉
Originally posted by globalloon
I firt posted on this ages ago…GL, i understand all the points you’ve made… they are very sensible, but the charity I have in mind is a very fresh, direct organisationwith links to the Brazilian F.A. and even the Brazilizn ambassador, but the charity’s director is happy for me to go ahead with this…
I’ll let you know how it pans out 😉
the darkest irony is your approach will prolly be really successful because the charity is outside the UK and the local area – curiously enough I’ve noticed the middle england types are happy to help “poor foreign children” (providing they are not from a group seeking asylum in the UK!) but go apeshit at a scheme which helped an unpopular group such as young offenders or drug users in their own local area….. despite the long term effects being positive for their own community (not that there’s anything wrong in collecting money for other countries though!)
some friends tred to organise a charity event for a local listed building that is trying to become a community centre.
the license was refused because they were worried about drugs??? (could it have had something to do with the proposed venue being near the drinking / clubbing area? how do they decide on whether to grant a license?)
it’s looking more and more likely it will become a business park with some pubs. There’s a whole area of my town that is basically chain-pubs all next door to each other. I’m talking about probably 30 pubs within one sq. mile.
Originally posted by Unregistered
the license was refused because they were worried about drugs??? (could it have had something to do with the proposed venue being near the drinking / clubbing area? how do they decide on whether to grant a license?)
the council officers discuss the application with Police and Fire Brigade and decide whether one should be granted or not, taking into account
1] evidence from the cops on the suitability (or otherwise) of the applicants
2] evidence from the Fire Brigade of the suitability of the venue with regard to fire safety
3] any objections received from the public (including other business owners)
sadly I’m not suprised this happened. Any licensed urban music venue is seen as a “potential drugs/crime magnet” by the Police, plus there is plenty of opportunity in the licensing process for potential commercial rivals to stick the knife in.
the venues that do survive in my area only manage to do so by kowtowing to license conditions like CCTV, bouncers separate to event promoters (so they can get away with being complete arseholes 😡 ) , cops wandering in and out as they please..
To be fair the OB and councils hate the chain pubs just as much but they pay more money for their licenses than smaller organisations (passed back to you in overpriced and watered down beer !) so the money buys them the way in
and the authorities wonder why unlicensed events happen..
sorry to drag this thread off topic BTW (not sure if its possible to split a thread?)
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