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    I’ve been spending the last couple of weeks moving house. I used to live in some tatty terraced housing, but now I’m living in what can only be described as a mansion, with a huge lawn and even a spacious area of woodland out the back. I can hardly believe it when I go back there after work, especially considering the area of town it’s in. Westside.

    Which brings me onto the title of this thread. A few doors down from our house, there are some garages, making it quite an empty road at night. Sometimes you can see some girls hanging around the garages, waiting for business as they can’t solicit on the main road, but sometimes they will wait further up the road – outside our house and our neighbours. One of my housemates said that she’s been woken up on a couple of occasions by the kerb-crawlers, though I wouldn’t have thought that they would make too much noise. I’m not particuarly worried about it, if ever I’ve come home late, or when people come and visit, they tend to move away, respecting the residents, as I very much doubt they want any trouble.

    The thing is, it’s been stupidly cold, this last week, and I really have felt sorry for the girls, and we were thinking about going out one night just to give them a cup of tea or something. I mentioned this to some people and the response from a few people was pretty frosty. Along the lines of “Fuck ’em, they’re whores, they don’t deserve anything.”

    Admittedly, not everyone was like this, but it seems to be a fairly common line of thought.

    The thing that I don’t get is that if the average Daily Mail reader was to study my life, I’m pretty sure I would get branded a junky, a trespasser and an all round trouble maker, along with a few other things, as I’m sure most of you would be also. That’s what pisses me off when some people, some peers, even, use the same eyes to judge others that are used to judge them.

    That was quite a fun rant. I might pick another subject out of the hat, tomorrow…

    ***peace***

    monkey monkey wrote:
    The thing is, it’s been stupidly cold, this last week, and I really have felt sorry for the girls, and we were thinking about going out one night just to give them a cup of tea or something. I mentioned this to some people and the response from a few people was pretty frosty.

    pmsl!!! The only prob is that if u take them cups of tea etc and the cops are watchin they might think yr their pimp or they could think that u use their services often and could land u with a bit of trouble just from bein nice. If u were to do it would u buy diff mugs for them to drink out of? I wouldnt like the idea from drinkin from a cup after them since u dont know wot they could hav.

    DJ FATTMAN wrote:
    pmsl!!! The only prob is that if u take them cups of tea etc and the cops are watchin they might think yr their pimp or they could think that u use their services often and could land u with a bit of trouble just from bein nice.

    I know the area he lives in and would agree totally – often that area is full of detectives and if not neighbours log the movements of the girls and punters and pass this info to cops as part of neigbourhood watch.

    I would not advise he approaches them on his own as a single male – even if he was with a girl it wouldn’t help as cops would think she was a also a prostitute and if he was with a group it would probably panic the girls who would think you are vigilantés.

    also da monkey, like myself, is Asian and the obvious racial sterotypes are going to kick in here when locals or cops see him.

    at least with cops you may be able to explain away what you were doing, but feelings run high westside and there is a growing vigilanté culture, another thing to beware of would be locals bricking your windows or worse attacking you as you are “encouraging the vice trade”.

    You and I know how fucking expensive housing is in our city. that house would have been affordable for a reason…

    TBH though they are making enough in cash terms to afford a cup of tea if they wanted to buy one and probably are not feeling the cold as class A drugs actually mask the cold (go down broad street and you will sometimes see crackhead aggro blokes dressed in summer clothing in the middle of winter!)

    but I agree that young people have no right to judge them particularly not young males.

    They are there because of the sexually liberated society of today where there is no shame and nothing is taboo, as well as the unregulated drug culture the rave scene introduced in the early 1990s…the urban music scene and the sex trade are closely linked (particularly UKG) – a lot of prostitutes are ex-rave girls who got too much into drugs and became addicted to class A or made bad relationship choices (look in our heroin thread for examples)

    Worse still, more recently young men (including those in relationships) have lost any shame about using prostitutes – before it was a “sad dirty old man’s” pastime. It is a reaction to online adult material giving people unrealistic ideas of sex and relationship – with darker overtones of a backlash against womens increasing power in society, as it is a way where men can regain power over women.

    unfortunately it seems to appeal to a lot of the insecure immature boys around these days who think they are hard.

    Also the man reason many of these girls are on the streets is because one or more men has already used and abused them and left them with a kid to raise or an addiction, and they eventually think that if men are going to treat them like that they might as well try and make some cash out of it.

    TBH I would leave the “do-gooder” stuff to the professionals who are trying to get these girls off the streets, off drugs and into stable independent lives (and there are people trying to do this – if you want I will try and find out how you could support them).

    i’d say “hello, how’s it going”

    and hopefully have the craic with them

    but taking someone a cup of tea is a bit patronising i think… it’s like getting a silver blanket when you think you’re just having a night out

    wonder how the new regulation (allowing small brothels) will help…

    To be honest, after reading the responses, it’s pretty fortunate that the weather’s warmed up.

    I wouldn’t have meant to be patronising, it was ridiculously cold when we thought about it – all I know is that when I’ve had to stand out in the cold for whatever reason, I would have given my arm for a cuppa.

    Not having lived this side of town for quite some years now, I didn’t really know what the situation was like. When I was last round here, there were a couple of ‘massage parlours’ but nothing else of that nature, really. It has all changed now, and never really having been confronted with the reality of it before, I’ve guess I’ve not given due consideration to the reaction of those around me towards any actions.

    I do find it a bit odd, though, how for all the reasons mentioned it’s probably the best thing not to take them a cuppa, for my own sake – but the reasons basically add up to people not understanding or appreciating that one person just wants to be nice to another…

    This thread makes a pretty depressing read.
    You want to help them but can’t for fear of being associated with them or police aciton.
    It really is a shame.
    Assuming all prostitutes are smackheads is like saying all sqatters sign on.
    I am not saying I would give them tea, for the reasons people have mentioned. I just think its sad that if you want to help its often not the right thing to do.
    If I were in your postion and they weren’t causing me a nucence I would try to treat them as I would any other “manual” worker out on a cold night. although its easyer to say than do.
    I hope the new brothel rules reduce the amount of street workers. I dont see any where I live although I am told they are about. I was in Middlebrough a while back, the hotel I was staying in was in a rough part of town over looking some waste ground. It was teaming with activity at night. Funnily enough the club down the road was called “Pimps”…..you had to laugh.

    my mistake pimp

    i wouldnt have thought you are gonna get nicked for being a pimp for bringing someone a cup of tea…but i spose stranger things have happened. i would have thought that if they are a permenant fixture on your road, then the best thing to do would be to say hi, give em a brew, whatever you recon. i doubt they are gonna take the piss out of you for trying to warm em up, they might be touched, you never know. plus they prolly see a lot of what happens on your road, so its smart to have em onside. you have to feel a bit sorry for ho’s, i know they can make a fair bit of cash out of it, but so could i selling my arse, but i’d have to be pretty fucking desperate before that happens. in fact, i think i’d resort to armed robbery before i did that, so at least they are making a honest living. i thank the eternal tao that im not a minger, so if i want some cheap pussy i can go out on the pull, but if i did ming, i’d be thanking my lucky stars that there were ho’s to sort me out. top thread. love it.

    USE – Reading is now pretty much “outer Londonistan”.

    people don’t interact with their neighbours unless they have to, so all they go on is stereotypes.

    If monkey monkey was a middle aged white woman and not a young Asian lad there would be no problem (other than being propositioned by would be punters looking for a more “mature” experience!)

    if you talk to them I’d definitely suggest making sure you don’t have any pot, rizlas or anything incriminating on you and perhaps proof of ID and that you live locally!

    on a lighter note, this thread has now triggered the ” inappropriate content buckaroo ” [1] in action on my employers web gateways.

    It was fine this morning but now its blocked as “porn detected!”

    [1] there is a quota on sex related talk / swearing so high-brow news sites usually get through (although even the Grauniad has been blocked once) but tabloids and sex story places are blocked….

    I don’t like the sound of the sensor on your network GL.
    Still given the amount you seem to post and, I guess, from work I suppose the filter is really doing its job. Unless your having us all on and your some NHS reasearcher into the effect of rugs on the online communities…:razz: 😛
    If so I would be intrested in reading any peer review material you may have.:alien_abd

    USE wrote:
    but if i did ming, i’d be thanking my lucky stars that there were ho’s to sort me out.

    Wise words!

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