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  • I’m sure this thread must of been covered before but as a newbie I’m in need of some pointers. Used to have some awesome see on many illegal drugs. Looking for a legal option to some fun…..

    unfortunately in recent times just about every country in the world has made these controlled substances and closed any remaining loopholes in the law (China made a whole load illegal in 2015 and that is where the bulk of them come from). “Legal” was always a bit of a misnomer as the only legal bit about the whole scene was you could buy them online without fear of being nicked, folk still got in trouble for driving under the influence or doing other silly things that attracted the attention of cops leading to global media panics.

    I never tried the synthetic cannabinoids (as I had already long since stopped smoking pot) but although the functional stims were OK none of the new stuff had the same euphoria as 1990s/2000s era MDMA or LSD. Cathinones (mephedrone etc) were good for a bit but quickly turn nasty.

    The closest NPS (5/6-APB) were similar to some early 90s pills but also had a rough comedown and could also be fatal in overdose so got quickly controlled.

    that said, if you still look fairly young and live in a region where there are universities or urban areas with a younger population and EDM/rave events still happen all the “old stuff” is still likely to be there as well……

    Europe has a few countries where certain compounds can be had still butvendors are few and far between and as GL pointed out, last year China banned 160 compounds that were illegal in many countries for as much as a few decades (DOC, 4-AcO-DMT,, MET, the 2 and 4 cubstituted flouro-amphetamines and 2 and 4 subed flouro-methamphetamines but the vast majority of compounds banned by China were synthetic cannabinoids.

    I crtainly had a lot of experience with synthetic cannabinoids but their potency was massive and many many people endured very serious experiences when they smoked them, either because they were ignorant about them, which was anyone who bought any “branded” herbal blend as the vendors that made these products either didn’t list the actual cannabinoids used or if they did list them, they gave the full chemical name which unless you’d done your homework might as well have been written in heiroglyphics. Even if there were compounds listed on the packaging, forensic analysis of them showed the vast majority of them were total bullshit as well as there being ZERO consistency on the ratios of compounds in each batch. You could buy a blend one week, in some nice packaging and some stupid name but you could buy the exact same product the next week and it was totally different.

    People were under the illusion that they were just like cannabis and put the same amount of blend in a joint or bong or whatever and very soon found themselves in hellish situations and potentially killed some people. They even ctarted making c-liquids which are e-liquids but with cannabinoids i them.

    I made my own blends by buying the pure powdered cannabinoids myself so I knew exactly how much of what was going in and used exactly the same ratios every time but I had a friend who made a batch of c-liquid. He has been a long time vaper and had been making e-liquids for a long time before he made his c-liquid yet when he made his c-liquid, he got his calculations wrong by a factor of 10, put some in his e-cig, took 3 draws and he thought he was potentially going to die. I gtot a text saying simply “help” so I rang him and he sounded like he’d been beaten half to death. I had to talk him through it for around 2 hours before hhe was feeling ok again.

    If you ever do get any of these compounds, be careful and do your research.

    Just going to echo what everyone else said, only thing to add is that depending where you are you might have access to a bit more.

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