boothy;324594 wrote:
Any working class area up here won’t trust police for shit, whether it’s your 20 year old or 80 year old.
this is true down south too, but the impression I get, particularly the snippets of life in Sheffield that people mention here is that all across England the traditional working class are being slowly eliminated along with the manufacturing industry and being made into a new “middle class”.
there are as many “urban working class” areas down South as up North with the same problems as well as middle class people here what have been kicked off the ladder due to professional jobs going either to foreign nations or the North
for example I got a fax today from a large organisation where although we were dealing with lower paid admin staff in Suffolk, their finance department has been outsourced to Yorkshire.
What remains of the angry young men seems to either becomes a criminal underclass who destroy any empathy from their own communities by their own acts; and thus they either want “hard men” from the community to eliminate the scum or even reluctantly support cops doing so, particularly those Northerners what have done relatively well in life and worked their way up.
A few years back I worked with a old chap (well 50s), he was originally working class but went to uni, got jobs int he BBC and granada as an engineer – lived somewhere outside Manchester.
He told me about how GMP as recently as 2001 would willingly give a good kicking to scallies because the “laws were too PC” – he was 100% supportive and just wished he was fit and strong enough to join in, and that its a shame guns aren’t allowed for normal people. He’s not by far the only Northerner I’ve met with views like this.
A while back I also read a report many youngish men in pit areas were applying for the Police despite the history, as they sort of admired the hard man mentality in northern constabularies and reluctantly felt “well the miners put up a fair fight and lost, so maybe we should go for the winnign side”.
