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  • I was definitely told it would remain on file for three years only – do they actually know what laws they’re enforcing?!

    In any case, all the evidence seems to indicate it’d be unwise at the moment to do anything likely to attract official attention and pull down more heat. Not that I was of course…

    Thanks for the advice all, I’ve found the information on this forum to be incredibly useful over the last few months. My God, it’s the big society in action!

    @Kropotkin 394915 wrote:

    I was definitely told it would remain on file for three years only – do they actually know what laws they’re enforcing?!

    to be fair the policy of individual constabularies varies from area to area, some were keeping cautions only on “local box” (a local database) rather than full PNC, some were deleting after 5 years, others keeping them for life. So the govt a few years ago (may have been as long ago as when Major was still in power!) moved from a postcode lottery to a more equal but harsher system!

    (the cop has in fact confused the old expiry time of a juvenile caution with an adult one!)

    the cautions are at least a better system than 20 years ago where people got put up before the beak for tiny amounts of drugs, and had their name in the local news for the rest of the community to see.

    consider also that today it would be simple for someone to collate their own private shitlist of peoples crimes from the local Press, and offer their services as a “employment screening consultant”.

    It would also be illegal under data protection, but someone got away with it for years keeping tracks of union membership in the construction industry, he was undetected for years as he mostly used paper records and didn’t keep anything on internet connnected computers!

    Sorry, I have to disagree. A caution is an admission of guilt without trial. The information above is correct, but as the rules change you don’t know what is going to happen in the future. The current system allows for abuse already. Industries are different and use them differently, and you never know where your future may go.

    They are taken into account when being sentenced for future issues even though you haven’t been convicted, and may not have been in a fit state to sign it. Employers can check for 2 types of check. Also all official records may be brought into the light if requested. The system is abused by police who lack evidence and rely on poorly written pamphlets given to you in the station, and the public not knowing their rights or the consequences of their actions – thus the need for legal advice.

    It may mean you can’t do volunteer work at a later date.

    As a general rule, in my experience, out of court disposal mechanisms are not used to save court time, they are used to build files and save paperwork. If the evidence was there, in all likelihood you’d have been arrested and charged. Taking a caution is taking a slapping for something you needn’t. Check the figures of how many refused cautions resulted in convictions, court dismissals (or mostly) simply being held for another hour as they provide the release paperwork with no further action to be taken.

    In your case, an “opiate” could be anything from a class C shed 5 (you’ve done nothing wrong) to heroin, far more likely crushed pills of some sort by your supplier (christ, why are people still buying from these people??). If you brought something in good faith you have likely not committed a crime. The “opiate” is likely legal for personal use, or would never have hit the courts anyway. It’s quite possible it came from anti-diarrhoea or cough medicine. Basically you had a personal use amount of something believed to be legal that *may* have contained something else, probably legal too, but the work “heroin” came up in a threatening situation and you’ve accepted guilt on processing opiates, which will never leave your file. I stand by taking legal advice always, and as a general rule, simply not accepting it is you’re in any way able to afford a case, I’d fight every time – cautions imply a lack of evidence, you are innocent until proven guilty.

    No offense meant to people who disagree, or experience differs x

    Krop – is your age correct? If so, something doesn’t add up.

    @Kropotkin 394915 wrote:

    I was definitely told it would remain on file for three years only – do they actually know what laws they’re enforcing?! !

    LOL av never met one that does yet 😉

    @mushroom_john 394977 wrote:

    It may mean you can’t do volunteer work at a later date.

    True but its societies loss. They made the laws and have to lose good volunteers because of it – in some ways its your payback against society! In reality its often prejudice of those in management positions of voluntary organisations (particularly those dominated by social conservative members of faith groups) causing this problem rather than the application of the law itself which if correctly interpreted encourages a much greater culture of forgiveness and rehabilitation than in previous times. ironic given the supposed concept of faith groups in modern society, more so when you consider private and public sector employers are more forgiving!

    Before CRB there was simply a “grapevine” (particularly in small towns and rural areas) between senior police officers and voluntary group leaders without any sort of monitoring or accountability! I appreciate many people below the age of 35 may not be aware of any of this, but there were (and still are to an extent in rural areas) ways where communities formed ranks and tried to ensure certain people “stayed in the gutter” and the trend at the time to ensure drugs cases were heard in Magistrates and reported in the Press meant that local employers soon found out. (whole families could be blacklisted, it still happens to an extent in villages round here!)

    If the evidence was there, in all likelihood you’d have been arrested and charged.

    Unless you mean the recent cannabis “caution” / “street penalty” (which may be falling out of favour anyway) to get to the situation where you would be getting a Simple Caution you would already have been arrested on suspicion of posession.

    even with chemical party drugs, cops also often “use their discretion”, sling the drugs into the gutter, give the offender a minor bollocking and say they’ve been “cautioned”, then send them on their way!

    – cautions imply a lack of evidence, you are innocent until proven guilty.

    Unfortunately its well known and acccepted by the bulk of non drug using society that drugs laws the world over reverse this legal principle, even in countries known for a relatively liberal rule of law…

    Even European Human Rights legislation has get outs allowing stronger action against “drug addicts” than normal “healthy” citizens. At present the concept of “guilt”, however flawed, lies within the very concept of taking drugs without the advice of a medical professional, not the scientific evidence of what the drugs actually are. Until (or if) this consensus changes there are still risks in “bucking the system”. in the “real world” this sort of “activism” is seen as no different from a known burglar saying “it wasn’t me” because the CSI couldn’t get enough decent quality fingerprints at the crime scene.

    in the future if people keep trying to buck the system (unless recreational drug users can improve their image) its more likely things go backwards, people being sent to the Magistrates for piddling small amounts, their names in the paper and still being barred from doing voluntary work etc, like what I remember happening to friends in the 1980s…

    I remember in the 1990s the drug using community had a much more optimistic outlook but Noughties binge culture has put paid to any chance of any more leniency in the medium term.

    BTW what I do disagree with is cops offering cautions for incidents of violent behaviour. IMO everyone who feels they have the right to use force against their fellow citizen should have to explain their actions in a Court of law under the scrutiny of the media and the local community!

    @judgefooky 394982 wrote:

    LOL av never met one that does yet 😉

    lower ranks yes, but in the senior ranks of some constabularies there is a new breed of copper from their late 20s to about my age who has graduated from uni, is very clued up about the law, and what they don’t know they know where to find out.

    a lot of the senior cops of East Anglia are like that and it shows in how tenacious they are in enforcing the law..

    @mushroom_john 394977 wrote:

    Krop – is your age correct? If so, something doesn’t add up.

    Yeah, you think maybe its time to move on to the pipe and slippers?

    @Kropotkin 395038 wrote:

    Yeah, you think maybe its time to move on to the pipe and slippers?

    😉

    no mate, the advise given to you by the police was incorrect, that’s all.

    its hardly surprising, as the term “Formal Warning” was used until the late 1990s for what is now officially called “Words of Advice” – this is easily confusable with the “Final Warning” which is a juvenile sanction and does “expire” after 3 years rather than 5 apart from for CRB as already mentioned.

    perhaps it would make more sense (as kids grow up quicker and are aware of right and wrong fairly quickly) to have a standard expiry time for all convictions over the age of criminal responsibility…

    theres still loads of places to get it just gotta pick the right site

    Would be very interested to find out if anyone can get any in Scotland as it seems that there is quite honestly none in the country.

    @Kropotkin 394840 wrote:

    Just wondered if anyone has attempted to do this from sites based in EU countries where it’s still legal?
    Did it make it through Customs and was it as pure as the pre-ban plantfood?

    my mate orders tamazis from india or wherever sometimes they come sometimes they dont, but there a perscription drug not a banned one, i wouldnt bother customs may let u away with it the 1st maybe 2nd time but smuggling is a far worse crime than a slap on the wrist for posession…..

    @JesusGreen 394850 wrote:

    There are hundreds of FAR better RCs out there that are illegal in the UK.

    Any recommendations? I’ve heard from a couple of places that Mephedrone is just about the best thing you can buy, taking in to account both the effects and the cost. Obviously it’s not the healthiest of drugs but I haven’t heard of a lot of things that give you a better feeling. I’ve taken it a couple of times and really loved it. Just wondering though..

    Of course your post was a while ago and since then the media hype has died down, do you know if there has been any change in this ‘drugs in the post’ method?

    i can get u Mephedrone over to EU,or anywhere u want in this world, i send the goods to my address and when collected u now get it to your address

    Trying to buy / sell drugs online isn’t clever.

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