@iliesse 975123 wrote:
lis-dexamfetamine?????
l-lysine-dextroamphetamine
an amino acid bonded to dexies its an ADD med that is supposed to have less potential for abuse cause you can’t snort it and it has to be broken into lysine and dextroamphetamine. Anyways the thread starter said someone showed him a bag of crystal meth and claimed it came from a cold water extraction of vyvanse(the tradename of l-lysine-dextromaphetamine) which sounds like bullshit but any opinions of yours are welcomed as always.
@Digital Buddha 975127 wrote:
l-lysine-dextroamphetamine
an amino acid bonded to dexies its an ADD med that is supposed to have less potential for abuse cause you can’t snort it and it has to be broken into lysine and dextroamphetamine. Anyways the thread starter said someone showed him a bag of crystal meth and claimed it came from a cold water extraction of vyvanse(the tradename of l-lysine-dextromaphetamine) which sounds like bullshit but any opinions of yours are welcomed as always.
lol – i think am gonna stay to my simple Ps. Eph/iodine/R.Ph … recept, and stay with it which until now gives a very pur meth anf FORGET ALL THESE OTHER COMPLICATED. And avoid to think like the guy dreaming about big $$$, am to old to play that game now.
Cooking for myself and a few guys which use it in moderation is ok for my morality and even legal where I LIVE
I am at the moment much more concerned about the LEMAVISOLE used to cut cocain which is now the identified cause of the difficulty to heal my cicatrix and which are present in little quantities in most samples i tested.
Am now trying to find if there could be a solution to separate organic coke cut with novocaine (=procaine) or cut with benzocaine, but didn’t find until now.
If u have an idea how to do that ?
Lemavisole is pretty much in all the coke now which sucks, as far as separating cocaine from procaine or benzocaine I think you need a lab type set up but give this a read http://www.ncids.com/forensic/sbi/drug/technical/d_20_20061120.pdf
edit: Lemavisole is a dream of a cutting agent for dealers and wholesalers but total shit for users, much rather see about anything else because of the health risks of lemavisole..
Yes matey, it’s a dream for dealers and the worst possible thing for users. Irf I were thinking about separating the two I’d have to look at what is differentabout the 2 compounds. Melting point, solubility etc and find what’s most different and try use that in a method of separating. If they have massively different solubility in a certain liquid then dropit all in some of that liquid and drain off the dissolved solutipon and evapourate the liquid. No idea how likely anything like that is to qwork but that’s where I’d start.
Yes matey, it’s a dream for dealers and the worst possible thing for users. Irf I were thinking about separating the two I’d have to look at what is differentabout the 2 compounds. Melting point, solubility etc and find what’s most different and try use that in a method of separating. If they have massively different solubility in a certain liquid then dropit all in some of that liquid and drain off the dissolved solutipon and evapourate the liquid. No idea how likely anything like that is to qwork but that’s where I’d start.
Vyvanse was formulated to keep abusers from abusing it.Of course users havr tried to get around this.Vyvanse has nlo effecy whatsoever if snorted or smokkes.The amphetamine in vyvanse MUST be absorbed by the small intestine to have its effect on the body.
@tryptameanie 975149 wrote:
Yes matey, it’s a dream for dealers and the worst possible thing for users. Irf I were thinking about separating the two I’d have to look at what is differentabout the 2 compounds. Melting point, solubility etc and find what’s most different and try use that in a method of separating. If they have massively different solubility in a certain liquid then dropit all in some of that liquid and drain off the dissolved solutipon and evapourate the liquid. No idea how likely anything like that is to qwork but that’s where I’d start.
he was asking about getting procaine/benzocaine ect out of cocaine which makes it sound like he knows where to get it without lemavisole.
No, iliesse is worried about lemavisole n his coke and how to get it out.
@tryptameanie 975180 wrote:
No, iliesse is worried about lemavisole n his coke and how to get it out.
You’re right I missread it that he wanted to get benzocaine/procaine out, which I’d still want to get out but not as badly, it seems like there isn’t a quickfix as levamisole is very similar to cocaine hence it is now the cut of choice even way up the ladder.
http://www.dea.gov/pr/microgram-journals/2013/mj10-1_12-16.pdf
an admin on bluelight said “Go find some heptane, hexane, “petroleum ether”, or “ligroin”. Make a cocaine solution in distilled water and gently add baking soda or very dilute NaOH in water until cocaine falls out of solution (too much alkali will destroy the coke – you have to look up the pKa of cocaine), then add some hexane, mix well, let it settle, then skim the hexane off and keep it. Do that a few times, combine the hexane layers (containing hopefully mostly cocaine freebase), dry them over anhydrous sodium sulfate, calcium sulfate, magnesium sulfate etc. and then you can either evaporate the hexane to get smokeable freebase, or set up a hydrogen chloride generator and bubble HCl through it, to get much cleaner and purer cocaine HCl.”
That is the best I’ve got so far.
Awesome, that’s the sort of thing I was thinking.
It seems like producing your own cocaine by growing your own plants is about the only way to prevent levamisole contamination because it really is that good of a cutting agent that they’re now using it way way up the chain. I’m sure there is some peruvian flake that makes it way to consumers without adulteration but by and large it is cut with animal dewormer at some point. That DEA microgram article seems like the best scientific article that is readily available. I searched my universities database and couldn’t find anything about separating them, just stuff about it being bad for you.
Excellent job my friend :). Yeah the producers have found a gem with that cutting agent.
@Digital Buddha 975186 wrote:
an admin on bluelight said “Go find some heptane, hexane, “petroleum ether”, or “ligroin”.
the first two might not be that easily available outside of industrial chemical factories – none of them are restricted in the UK but the Fire Brigade (not unreasonably) do not like people hoarding large amounts in residential areas.
“Light solvent naptha” is sold with only basic age controls in 100ml tins as “lighter fluid” for old style cigarette lighters (it can be also used for cleaning oil/grease/tar from various items. The tin I have is distributed from somewhere in Yorkshire and has EU code 920-750-0 which apparently means that there is not as much benzene in it or associated aromatics (they knacker your insides and/or give you cancer after long term exposure) but mostly contains C7-C9.
I think the first one of these is heptane and that using this stuff is probably less unhealthy than ingesting levamisole (provided you don’t cause a fire/explosion during the processing) but I am not a chemist so not 100% sure (although illiesse is and most likely can get hold of the purer solvents without being quizzed too closely.
@General Lighting 975255 wrote:
the first two might not be that easily available outside of industrial chemical factories – none of them are restricted in the UK but the Fire Brigade (not unreasonably) do not like people hoarding large amounts in residential areas.
“Light solvent naptha” is sold with only basic age controls in 100ml tins as “lighter fluid” for old style cigarette lighters (it can be also used for cleaning oil/grease/tar from various items. The tin I have is distributed from somewhere in Yorkshire and has EU code 920-750-0 which apparently means that there is not as much benzene in it or associated aromatics (they knacker your insides and/or give you cancer after long term exposure) but mostly contains C7-C9.
I think the first one of these is heptane and that using this stuff is probably less unhealthy than ingesting levamisole (provided you don’t cause a fire/explosion during the processing) but I am not a chemist so not 100% sure (although illiesse is and most likely can get hold of the purer solvents without being quizzed too closely.
Yeah I just copy & pasted it without add a qualifier about what is what just cause illiesse knows his solvents better than most but thanks for clearing that bit up just in case anyone else is trying to get levamisole out of their cocaine. Yeah absoultely agree that lighter fluid for zippos ect is probably the best bet on something easily obtainable for separating the two. Kind of a bitch when it is easier to get coke with levamisole in it than it is to get all the necessary stuff to get the levamisole out of it. Me thinks with the procedure the guy from bluelight gave there would be a good bit of lost cocaine aside from the drop in yield from the levamisole being removed.
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