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  • hi ellie

    i have seen that drug pic on talk2frank,have u had a go,its realy quite mad….i know wot u mean by the 5yr thing,i 2 have tryed my fair share of the a,b,c’s.its all very frightning now….:crazy_diz :hopeless:

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    StarLaugh – I used to watch “dog the bounty hunter” Yeah i am ashamed to admit i watched it

    I am the Dog, The big bad Dog, The Bounty Hunter daam da da dam da da da darn raaa therse not a week go by whithout that tune being in my head for at least a day duda!

    Ive tried it in brum and thought it was quite nice and clean, don’t plan to do it again cause its defo got addictive propoties/ effects.

    Dissenter wrote:
    Ive tried it in brum and thought it was quite nice and clean, don’t plan to do it again cause its defo got addictive propoties/ effects.

    Really….what was it like?

    Not that I plan on doing it, but you hear so much oof the negative stuff from the media, would be intresting to hear it from the users side!

    xxxx

    Well I had already ate a few pills when I brought it so I carnt really say to much but i was told to bomb it, just a few little rocks to a bomb. I had about three over the course of the night. It made me chuck up as i came up and just felt like really clean strong base and it reminded of crack a bit but that might of been cause the look identical. Kept me going till the next evening and didnt keep me awake for days either, but i did have some K that second evening which might of effected that a bit. Great weekend :crazy_diz

    Dissenter wrote:
    Well I had already ate a few pills when I brought it so I carnt really say to much but i was told to bomb it, just a few little rocks to a bomb. I had about three over the course of the night. It made me chuck up as i came up and just felt like really clean strong base and it reminded of crack a bit but that might of been cause the look identical. Kept me going till the next evening and didnt keep me awake for days either, but i did have some K that second evening which might of effected that a bit. Great weekend :crazy_diz

    Obviously not the same as the smokable variety in these parts(S E asia) just sounds like you had strong base.

    HARTY wrote:
    Obviously not the same as the smokable variety in these parts(S E asia) just sounds like you had strong base.

    No mate, it was methamphet. It looked smokable too.

    starlaugh wrote:
    hummm, will have to read this when i get home (cant read it at work as its about drugs)

    Would it work though as you would be getting hooked on something that and you dont even realsie what it is?

    You can get hooked without realising ur on anything (patients in h’tal and morphine etc, babies in the womb with mums on drugs)

    Gald to hear you don’t spend all your day at work reading PV stuff! Tsk tsk 😉 😉 😉

    someone has been selling meth as mad in exeter recently :crazy_fre

    some pretty unhappy customers :annoyed:

    meth is available on prescription in america in low doses as an ADD or ADHD medication. clever ppl over in the US int they lol. i believe this is the case anyway…… might be wrong

    classbhero wrote:
    meth is available on prescription in america in low doses as an ADD or ADHD medication. clever ppl over in the US int they lol. i believe this is the case anyway…… might be wrong

    Don’t think meth is – you are maybe mistaking it with dex-amfetamine (dexies) which is a prescription drug for ADD in the US and here (meth-amfetamine is also called methidrine – dex-amfetamine sometimes dexidrine.)

    Here is some extra info, as there seems to be some confusion as to what meth is or is not:

    Crystal meth is usually one of the stereoisomers of methamphetamine hydrochloride (n-methamphetamine, d-methamphetamine, n-isomethamphetamine, and d-isomethamphetamine), and is often referred to as “crystal” or “crystal meth”, “ice”, occasionally “methidrine”, and lots of other confusing names. It is a clear crystalline solid.

    The freebase form of meth (also sometimes known as “ice”, “crystal” etc) is without a salt base, and is (AFAIK) a yellowish/orange crystalline substance (it is sometimes mistakenly described as a yellowish oil – possibly due to a common production technique dissolving the freebase in ether prior to turning it into the salt)

    Most of the problem (not caused by lack of info) with meth in the states stems from the fact they made the precursor chemicals needed to make amp-sulf illegal in the US (principally N-butylamine). The result was “bedroom chemists” looking for other ways to synthesize speed, and coming across a method that can be used to create meth (based on a reduction of pseudoephidrine with hydroiodic acid) – this creates the D-methylated version – d-methamphetamine hydrochloride (the D form is generally considered to be the strongest of the different stereoisomers).

    The main overdose risk stems from the strength more than anything – those who die from amphetamine toxicity usually do so because they push their body for too long while bombarding it with diuretics that stop it from de-toxing properly. Coupled with the constriction of blood flow that is also a result of taking stimulants, the kidneys eventually cease to be able to cope with the load – the eventual outcome being large scale organ failure.

    With the weaker unmethylated version (amp sulf), the general wear inflicted on the body usually causes you to stop well before the toxicity point (amphetamine sulfate is often considered more “taxing” on the body than meth). With the stronger methylated version, you can go right through the toxicity point, and not even notice – this coupled with the more extreme effect (in terms of vaso-constriction and diuresis) probably accounts for the higher mortality rate. Like anything, it is easier to get the dose wrong if the dose required is smaller (you can die from drinking whisky, but doing it with lager is much more difficult)….

    The freebase form (the one you smoke) is similar to the hydrochloride form (most street meth is methamphetamine hydrochloride), but without the last stage of production performed. If you were to smoke the salt form (hydrochloride, sulfate etc), first it wouldn’t work very well (as the molecule would be broken down into CO2 by the combustion process), and it would be bad for your lungs (as the other by-product of combustion would be chlorine or sulfur based oxides). The freebase is a more stable molecule, and sublimes to smoke before it breaks down. The reason it is turned into the salt form is that the salt is better absorbed by the body, and can be dissolved into solution easily. The freebase is used obviously because smoking gets it into the body more quickly than other methods short of injection – similar to the case with coke and crack (crack is the freebase and smokable form of cocaine hydrochloride).

    Meth AFAIK was originally synthesized in WWII as a cheaper way of providing the stimulants both sides made in huge quantities, and has AFAIK never had a medical use.

    Meth is essentially the same as any other stimulant, and you should take the same precautions with all – Keep in mind that “stronger” is not the same as “better” though, but does often equate to more dangerous (and certainly does so with meth). If you are going to take it, start with a little (you can always take more, but taking less is difficult after the fact), and if you’ve been awake 5 days, it’s probably time to stop and let your body get some time to recover (no matter what it tells you about being able to go for another week:crazy:). Be aware of any of the signs of OD etc, and remember in the event something bad happens – get to a hospital quickly, and tell the doctor what you’ve taken. It may save your life, and you won’t get into any extra trouble for telling them (they’re under oath to keep it private, and you can’t be nicked for posession of something you’ve already taken in the UK anyway).

    Well it seems this SHIT is taking over, I was told last week at my DDC that the fortnightly drug tests will now be testing for crystal meths!!

    Would be pretty terrified if it somehow creeped into my wee!!!! teehee!!

    Remember been told that I had fete in my sample, i was like eh??? How the feck has that happened, just goes to show you never 100% know what you’re taking!!

    xxxx

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    Well it seems this SHIT is taking over, I was told last week at my DDC that the fortnightly drug tests will now be testing for crystal meths!!

    Its really arrived now :you_crazy:you_crazy

    nestie wrote:
    CRYSTAL METHS…MIXED WITH COCAINE AND SKUNK MANY PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE THAT THEY ARE TAKING IT,WHICH MAY BE AN ATTEMPT TO GET PEOPLE HOOKED…

    Sorry l don’t see how you can fail to notice bits of skunk stems in your wrap of crystal meth.

    Or, if you’re smoking a skunk spliff, surely you’d notice an unwholesome plasticky burning smell if someone had sprinkled crystals into it too? And if you didn’t roll the spliff yourself, you would only be having a small toke on it as it’s been passed your way. And wouldn’t you think it’s odd that, smoking your adulterated spliff, you suddenly feel like running up and down a flight of stairs, over and over again, or you just want to go nuts with an Uzi. Anyway, most of the base fumes would be wasted in clouds of ganja smoke wafting into the atmosphere, l can’t imagine how you could get a hit from a skunk plus meth spliff. Crystal meth aint cheap enough to waste like that, is it?

    Maybe l’ve misunderstood something in the original quote…


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      DynamicDon’tPanic wrote:
      Crystal meth aint cheap enough to waste like that, is it?

      Don’t think it will be a waste for the dealer , because he might get people hooked on Chrystal Meth..

      Good business for him/her in the long run :you_crazy

      *You're my favorite place to go to when my mind searches for peace *

      Speaking with my key worker about crystal meths and she told me that there are a few of her paitents and others that go to our DDC that take it, not addicted yet just recreational!
      Anyway apparently there are a few ‘factories’ up in the north east & in Leeds, so yes it has arrived!
      Crystal meths have been quite well documented in the media and so I hope this is enough to put people off, as it seems to be a soul destroying drug, worse then heroin?!

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