@iliesse 984549 wrote:
i disagree or what i have taken wasn’t mdma, but i have eaten these 2 last month pink playboys and pink skulls and i felt really like the first times the same effect.
AND USUALLY , MOST DRUGS ARE NOT GIVING THE SAME FEELING THE MORE TIMES U TAKE IT. EXCEPT FREEBASE, CANNABIS , ALCOOL WHICH STILL GIVES ME THE SAME AFFECT AS 25 YEARS AGO…. CANNABIS ALSO
@iliesse 984551 wrote:
thats 100% true, between (i would say 1993) where also the prices dropped from 80 swiss franks in 1987 to 30 franks in 1993 and in 2004 i was buying 2 franks in holland (5000 pellets) and selling 6 franks
per 1000 pieces in swiss where i had to eat 8 pices at once to feel an effect.AFTER I HAD TO PAY THE BILL IN JAIL, I CANT SAY WHAT HAPPEND.
But since am back free in 2010, i consim again and each year it seems to me they are getting stronger, in 2010 i remember eating per 5 pellets, 2 years ago in 2014 , I was already on Party vibes, i was eating 3 pellets and this year i cant imagine taking more then 2 at once
Nobody is saying the potency is decreasing my friend, but the magic ut gives the 1st 100 or so times diminishes.
@iliesse 984552 wrote:
u mean shulgin??? i agree that he was eaating maybe so many amphetaminers that his feelings can’t be relevant, maybe other compounds he took broked all his serotonine receptors, . the answer should be analysed in studies and not with a man who created all goodies and which can’t in m<y opinion say that
He never ever overdid anything. He did take MDMA once a week for over 10 maybe as many as 20 uears though
@tryptameanie 984555 wrote:
He never ever overdid anything. He did take MDMA once a week for over 10 maybe as many as 20 uears though
THAT’S MORE THAN I DID 20 YEARS ONCE A WEEK OF PURE MDMA:laugh_at:
I KNOW HE DIDN’T ABUSE, BUT WITH ALL COMPOUND HE SYNTETISED AND TRIED, I THINK HIS RECCEPTORS WERE NOT ABLE TO BE ENOUGH OBJECTIVE ABOUT THE EFFECT ON A “FRESH BRAIN” FROM A PERSON.
BUT IF U WERE MEANING THE FIRST TIME U TRY XTC IS REALLY A SPECIAL THING. ITS CLEAR THAT THE FEELING OF SOMETHING NEW WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME ENJOYMENT THAN THE 20TIES TIME U TAKE IT, AS ITS NO MORE A NEW THING. (If u was meaning that)
i saw a document were with her wife, they were saying 2c-i was very cool (did u try 2c-i ?)
To redirect, E is making a comeback for sure with all the big EDM festivals and the rebranding of the compound as “molly” which I think tookplace maybe a decade ago or so…
Shulgin tried to be objective but yeah it wasn’t a double blind placebo study with healthy volunteers; I have both his books and admire the man but I’m glad you two share the view that he shouldn’t be deified or anything.
@iliesse 984556 wrote:
BUT IF U WERE MEANING THE FIRST TIME U TRY XTC IS REALLY A SPECIAL THING. ITS CLEAR THAT THE FEELING OF SOMETHING NEW WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME ENJOYMENT THAN THE 20TIES TIME U TAKE IT, AS ITS NO MORE A NEW THING. (If u was meaning that)
I think thats what tryptameanie also means although I would also say it is about 20 times before it can “never be quite as good as the first”.
This is different from tolerance due to overuse so does mean that if you stop for many years than take it again a good dose will have similar pleasurable effects – I noticed that myself when I moved regions.
Bear in mind also we usually first enjoy this stuff in our teens/20s. when a young man gets to age 30 he has his “emotional puberty” long after his physical puberty and emotionally grows up (a bit) more; at the same time we tend to become parents or have more demanding jobs. So the angst etc on comedowns becomes more of a problem as well.
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