Party Vibe

LSD does not cause tiredness or any sort of sedation. although not a stimulant, if anything it is more likely to make you want to walk and explore things. You will certainly be able to think 😉

MDMA is best experienced with groups of people and music.

@ramune 488383 wrote:

I have every right to use tor, and I will continue to. I’m curious as to whether or not you have admin rights on the server, or you’re just looking to see that I use tormail. Regardless I find the aforementioned governmental monitoring to be a perfectly justifiable reason to use tor.

I’m curious about the exact vulnerability that you mentioned, because if you’re talking about reading traffic on an exit node then that’s a large stretch. Your linguistic analysis is peculiar, because that type of skill is usually only employed by law enforcement or social engineers.

Regardless, I have no guilt, concern, or worry. So, why are you worried about my tor usage?

I can see what IP’s people are using but do not have admin rights to the server.

My wider concern about the use of tor on these forums is not your content, there is nothing wrong with it nor your use of a perfectly legal piece of software (actual cops might think differently as I explain below) but as its not widely used here in spite of many folk knowing exactly what it does, it makes traffic more obvious, plus at our end all it takes is one persistent spammer or troll to use it (thankfully this has not happened yet here though it has happened on other forums) and especially for volunteer run non commercial forums they end up having to lock off all the exit nodes from access.

TOR even provide a list of nodes for this purpose. If that were to happen, you would then be blocked from a useful source of info due to others stupidity.

As for the vulnerability, all electronic signals travel at around the speed of light. with an accurate enough clock and other forms of traffic analysis, it is eventually possible to at least roughly locate their origin. its not trivial but nor is it impossible. in many cases this is all that is wanted or required by surveillance operatives, rather than going to all the trouble of fully decrypting things. in the same way a set of server access logs or a telephone system CDR gives a lot of info without having to painstakingly go through individual connections.

A rather less high tech issue which is the case in my country and region, if a 19 year old gets busted for class A drugs and the cops think its worth searching their house, they tend to check computers as well, usually they are seized and data inspected both locally on the machine and at ISP level. If they find “normal” things a 19 year old would have like music, videos, photos of friends there. unless they are linked to other crimes or computer contains info about drug dealing (including maybe buying a bulk amount to share with friends) its almost certain they will just return your computer and the end result is a minor penalty like a caution.

if they find regular use of TOR or any other similar encrypt software, unless you can provide a legit reason for it (and there may be some especially if you are studying computing) this results in a lot more suspicion and investigation of every other aspect of your life, more so than if you use normal clear internet. they get very paranoid of what they think are “intelligent criminals”. in this country its still luck of the draw whether you get smart cops or doughnut munchers but in that situation you hope its the dumber ones, and sometimes its better to play dumb yourself. But particularly the ones my my area are smart, because its a rural area and they don’t want to be seen as bumpkins”

You are also right that detectives and “social engineers” (of the last not all are bad, no worse than any other engineers) sometimes analyse languages, but not all of them have the skills, and other people are simply interested in languages. I have been since the early 80s, when I was a young boy and a bit young to join any security services, today they don’t have a great deal of use for a 40 year old drug user who is a university dropout with a criminal record who only understands European languages, when the bulk of perceived threats come from Oriental nations. (so do my ancestors but I don’t speak Chinese and nor did Dad, and he was Chinese). In the UK language skills are lacking even amongst cops and domestic security services, and when most drug deals are conducted in English and there are stubborn old men old enough to be my Dad bringing in kilos of worse class A who are easy to catch by normal policing they simply haven’t got the budget to infiltrate youth lifestyle websites.

And in this current political climate if I were a fed who was blatantly tolerating drug use, spending his time and possibly public money obtaining sound equipment and playing loud music I’d be more likely to get arrested and judged myself!

ironically one reason I decided to keep up my language skills, most recently learning Dutch was more to unearth useful info about electronics, computers, the music industry and how they addressed the social issues regarding drug use and balancing privacy/security with openness.

@ramune 488499 wrote:

Thanks for all the replies, I still need to decide what to try first or whether or not I should at all.[/quote]

this is another reason why unless its a real security risk its handy to know what countries people are in . there are some “liberal” European countries where I would not advise a clearly very intelligent and focused young person to do illegal drugs of any kind. not because cops will bust your door in and shoot you, quite the opposite, and even if you get prison its as good facilities as a small council flat in England, but paradoxically they seem a lot more judgemental about drug use than somewhere like the UK where provided you calm down as you get older and don’t do crime to fund your partying its not as harsh as it may seem.

one thing I will warn you about these drugs, is that they affect your ability to concentrate and focus on what are boring/mundane tasks, especially when younger. In my case this wasn’t a great loss as I was crap at that sort of thing anyway – but you do come across as particularly focused for a 19 year old lad, unusually so.

At the same age I was just thinking “music, booze, girls, drugs, partying, ug, ug, ug” etc. barely scraped through a levels, dropped out of uni after 2 years and was fucking lucky not to be sectioned or get prison at some points in my life. OK it worked out alright now but I was sailing very close to the wind. Many others doing the same got not just wrecked but shipwrecked..

Do you have any sources for this information? To my knowledge ping/traceroute require knowledge of the actual user IP, which is masked by the tor network unless leaked through insecure applications.

much is on the TOR site itself, annoyingly the one paper I thought was particularly relevant is on the computer at my office, though there may be a printed copy in a file I was putting together of interesting topics relating to communication (including a description of the German Hellschreiber system, although it can also work in clear). you have already found one vulnerabilty. it is easy though being a clever young lad to think “I am safe, as I don’t download those insecure apps”. but there are lots of other youths who read about it on some dumbed down article and think “i can get stuff free, and cops can’t find me” and thus download the insecure items, thereby compromising the network.

TOR is of some curiosity to me, but I don’t use it as these days I genuinely don’t have anything to hide, nothing to gain from using it and I don’t fullly understand its workings.

You need some head for maths to do so, and I’ve learned its best not to monkey around with things you don’t fully understand. Also I think the folk who are using it positively like various foreigners in countrys without “European” levels of freedom get away with it because they study hard, work hard, and are brainy uni types what do hard maths for fun and even cops have some awe and respect for them and leave them alone. Many are probably working on military and public sector projects so are valuable to these nations even if they might have dissenting views. They don’t, however, treat hedonistic drug users in the same way.

@Chrispydelic 488681 wrote:

Wow, were the last few posts the sky? Because they were well over my head! 😉

strictly half of that should have gone in the computer section, as they were about a form of encryption used by people trying to mask their whereabouts online. but it is related to drugs as some use this software to get drugs via silk road or similar places and may be getting into a false sense of security.