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Have a look on Youtube for some really good news reports from the time.
I can’t really answer the questions as I’m a bit young and a bit lethargic but good luck.
the media attention was IMO inevitable for a youth movement that results in large, colourful and noisy gatherings of thousands of people!
I have likened trying to “hide” this scene to trying to hide a pet tiger in a potting shed and hoping the neighbours don’t find out.
I think you are mixing up the response of Thatcher with that of the Major Govt. The old Leaderene was only about for the first two years of the “acid house” movement.
The stance of Thatcher was “interesting” inasmuch as it involved slapping down her own youth wing – the original acid house parties were organised by yuppies for yuppies as a capitalist enterprise with money being made at every corner and even some of the Young Conservatives (“freedom to party movement”) claimed this. There are debates in Hansard about this if you care to look… but of course I don’t think Thatcho could have turned a blind eye to law breaking and drugs traffic.
Most of the original acid house lot soon enough kowtowed to the demands of “market forces” and accepted such things as public entertainment licenses etc, paying for the use of venues etc – at least until the Police fought back and stitched a lot of people up by removing these licenses.
The response of Major was a different response to an evolved scene. By this time the travellers (the remnants of the 80s peace convoy) had got involved and brought the scene to those with less money and encouraged the “free parties” with the cashflow only coming in from the drugs as opposed to entry costs to the venues – far more emphasis on taking venues by stealth and force of numbers (squatting etc) and links with long-term travelling lifestyles – for which the CJA was the response.
As for the drugs, I don’t think the scene could ever have existed without them Britain in the 1980s was actually a fairly angry, divided place like it is today.
Drugs such as MDMA created the required “temporary euphoria” needed to spark off something like the rave scene; and at least for a short while broke down many peoples social barriers with regard to lifestyle, race, gender, sexuality etc and helped people integrate.
The rave scene also created a wider knowledge and in some cases acceptance of drug use which I don’t think British society can ever go back from. Drugs culture is here to stay – I wouldn’t say its 100% positive but used with respect and knowledge these substances can still have positive effects on society even today.
cheers for the reply! thats all well helpful. would it be possible if i quoted you in my dissertation? think i have to ask permission first!
were you around at the time of the beginning of the scene then? im only 21 so totally missed out on it all but it really fascinates me and wish i could time warp it back to the early 90`s! hehe
yep – go ahead and quote my response..
I was around on the scene from 1991 or so – although interested in acid house music since 1988 for reasons I already mentioned couldn’t exactly go out raving until my later teens..
The early 90s scene was fairly fun because it wasa new phenomenon, but people look upon it with rose-tinted specs. It didn’t take long for the blaggers/gangsters/wannabe hard men to realise there was power to be fought over and money to be made, there was as much trouble and violence as at some raves today and a lot of people overdid the drugs..
yeh thats how it seemed. a lot of fun on the outside but a darker aspect underneath. kinda like the party scene and dance music scene nowadays. i think with the ever fragmenting genres that keep appearing people are looking for something more underground and less mainstream but with that comes the negative side of things i suppose. especially the drum n bass / jungle scene.
do you still go to free parties n that?
yep I still go to free parties but less often nowadays due to work and time pressures…..
This is a favourite of mine…Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups!
“What is everyones views on the huge media attention the Acid House movement recieved in the early 90`s with the Criminal Justice Act being enforced and Thatcherism taking a real stand against illegal parties?”
A lot of fuss over not a lot. There was a time when I started to think of free parties as something more than just a party (could be political, could be culty or religious or something) but it didn’t take me too long to figure out that there is a clue in the title – it’s a free PARTY. The press made a big deal out of a bunch of yout’s going out and having a good time so the government tried to do something about it (powerful people often don’t like to see their underlings have fun for some reason).
I’m going to really show my age now – I compare the whole event to the film “Footloose” where the townsfolk actually ban a style of dancing and deem it “evil” while the kids just want to have a good time (man!!).
“As drug taking was such a huge part of the rave scene do you feel it to be a positive thing or a negative aspect? Do you feel that the scene would have taken off as strongly without the ecstacy involvement?”
Ecstacy certainly had a positive impact on lots of people in Britain at that time – just ask the FA how they feel about ecstacy and it’s impact on the stands in football stadiums across the country. If nothing else I am sure they prefered the smell of Vicks Raver Rub to sweat beer fags and testosterone.
As for the rave scene – it probably wouldn’t have been quite the movement that it was without E (for Empathy). However I don’t think the namesake of the scene itself – Acid – has been give enough credit for its impact on UK youth culture in th 90’s. Let’s just say that it can tend to make you see things in a different way… to say the least!
Unfortunately however there are two things to consider:
1. Drugs generally get sold by drug dealers who (like any good capitalist) are in it for the money. I bought most of mine off mates who were just happy party people trying to spread the happiness (possibly the most valuable career in the country), but I am sure that they got them off unshaven criminal masterminds with guns and bad attitudes who used the money to start up a video pirating business as a sideline to getting kids hooked on crack in primary school playgrounds.
2. When you get that many people in the same place at the same time, some of them are bound to be idiots. Some will take too many drugs, some will start experimenting with more damaging drugs, some will accidentally piss off others, some will purposefully fuck over others. It’s just people innit. A sad truth, but the fact remains.
PS If you haven’t read it yet find yourself a copy of “Fierce Dancing” by C J Stone. It’s full of great quotes for rave dissertations.
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