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  • @iliesse 590949 wrote:

    IF U DONT PAY CAUTION? JAIL?

    in England and Wales a Simple Caution [previously known as Formal Adult Caution] is just a telling off from a senior police offiicer (they try to act like your mum/dad and give you a leaflet with info on where to get drugs rehab]. It is supposed to go on your cirminal record (although mine got erased due to some errors by cops making my police record unreliable) but does not have any further penalties. There is no fine or jail sentence; only a Court can issue those.

    (scottish people have their own laws – not sure what happens up there)

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    a posession charge and conviction in america can fuck your future, looks like we all gotta pile in and live with ilesse

    @Digital Buddha 595421 wrote:

    a posession charge and conviction in america can fuck your future, looks like we all gotta pile in and live with ilesse

    I’m calling shotgun. Although, I doubt my taste in music would be overly harmonious within a group setting, maybe a drug addled front line combat situation.


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      @Digital Buddha 595421 wrote:

      a posession charge and conviction in america can fuck your future, looks like we all gotta pile in and live with ilesse

      not sure to undrstand u, but USA would be the last country where i would go living

      But i was wrong in one thing when i said for consumation u dont’t go in jail. if u do not pay the bill, 250$, u goes 8 days in jail (each day count 30 $ normally, but u can pay each month 20 $ if u phone the judge and make an arrangement for paying slowly

      But even u don’t pay u finnaly never goes in jail cuz one day in jail is costing the state between 300 to 500 $ to the state, so, they gives u an bracelet an u have to be 12 hours home each night.

      @iliesse 595448 wrote:

      But i was wrong in one thing when i said for consumation u dont’t go in jail. if u do not pay the bill, 250$, u goes 8 days in jail (each day count 30 $ normally, but u can pay each month 20 $ if u phone the judge and make an arrangement for paying slowly

      But even u don’t pay u finnaly never goes in jail cuz one day in jail is costing the state between 300 to 500 $ to the state, so, they gives u an bracelet an u have to be 12 hours home each night.

      this is similar to the UK but to get a fine you have to go to Court first and if its the lower Court (magistrates) the payment plan for the fines is often decided at the Court. If the case is heard by the higher court (Crown Court; they wear odd wigs like they were still in the 1700s; those of you in foreign nations may have seen this on films and TV) and there is a jury of 12 normal people (not legally trained) ) it is more likely you are getting a prison sentence if found guilty.

      Electronic tags/curfews are used here but more often after time has been served in prison (usually half the sentence) – Britain isn’t as bad as the USA yet but they tend to still send non violent criminals to prison more than other European countries. in 2010 the people here voted in a more rightwing government which is trying to act tough about drugs but at the same time is reducing budgets to the police; who therefore aren’t catching as many drug users and nowadays most cops don’t want to catch them unless they are doing some other crime as well; which means the govt still think their policies are working.

      I’ve not even seen that many reported drugs busts in Suffolk recently unless its large amounts of heroin, cocaine or bad xtc pills (with PMMA that kills people).

      Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
      wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

      So iliessse you think if you got caught with a Kilo of Crack you could pass it off as personal consumption? Yeah I thought I’d buy a kilo to smoke so it’d be cheaper.

      @iliesse 595448 wrote:

      not sure to undrstand u, but USA would be the last country where i would go living

      But i was wrong in one thing when i said for consumation u dont’t go in jail. if u do not pay the bill, 250$, u goes 8 days in jail (each day count 30 $ normally, but u can pay each month 20 $ if u phone the judge and make an arrangement for paying slowly

      But even u don’t pay u finnaly never goes in jail cuz one day in jail is costing the state between 300 to 500 $ to the state, so, they gives u an bracelet an u have to be 12 hours home each night.

      I was saying we all have to move to Switzerland

      @Gylfì Guðbjörnsson 595425 wrote:

      I’m calling shotgun. Although, I doubt my taste in music would be overly harmonious within a group setting, maybe a drug addled front line combat situation.

      we can have an aux off for the aux cord at ilesse’s house

      You seem a little bit too proud that your country has relaxed drug laws, I have been arrested twice for drug possession, all I did was spend the night in the cells and get a caution on both occasions as they were so far apart and only Class C and B drugs. It’s a bit shit but will only show up on Enchanced CRB check, so if I wanna work with children or vulnerable adults…. My last job was working with vulnerable adults and I got an enhanced CRB checked so it’s not really a big deal. I don’t think I’ll bother moving to Switzerland.


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        @p0ly 595474 wrote:

        You seem a little bit too proud that your country has relaxed drug laws, I have been arrested twice for drug possession, all I did was spend the night in the cells and get a caution on both occasions as they were so far apart and only Class C and B drugs. It’s a bit shit but will only show up on Enchanced CRB check, so if I wanna work with children or vulnerable adults…. My last job was working with vulnerable adults and I got an enhanced CRB checked so it’s not really a big deal. I don’t think I’ll bother moving to Switzerland.[/QUOTE

        1.Prévention
        2.Therapy
        3.Help to survive
        4.Repression

        This poltician woman came on the front against the drug problems again :[ATTACH=CONFIG]88065[/ATTACH]

        I won’t traduct it cuz am to lazzy

        AND I NEVER SAID U SHOULD MOVE TO SWITZERLAND

        THERE ARE other countries which has evoluated like Portugal who 15 years ago depenalised all drugs, i don’t know where they are nowaday, but debates about ” The drug war is loosing huge money and is the wrong way to try solving the problem “

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]88066[/ATTACH]
        La guerre à la drogue est perdue, essayons la paix – SWI swissinfo.ch

        i just post the thread trying to debate cuz maybe we are most all stoned here, but all lucky parents should worry about that problem

        PT still has the same laws but it is not a “drugs paradise” in any way; they use a lot of social engineering to discourage young people from drugs and have not made it a “party country” and even NL only puts up with drugs culture in a small part of Holland (which is not the whole country). The UK might not be officially decriminalised but there clearly are behind the scenes signs that in London, other metropolitan areas and otherwise deprived areas of North England party drugs use at music events is to some extent tolerated amongst the 16-25 age group; once you get older than that (and especially when above 30) if you get caught the cops encourage you to seek addiction treatment and/or mental health treatment even if its only party drugs use.

        Otherwise drugs laws and enforcement levels are fairly similar throughout the EU – which makes perfect sense and is one of the positive things about the EU. There are also far less youngsters doing drugs across Europe (even when NPS are taken into account) and for most of them its a passing phase which stops as they get older. A big factor is the amount of “selfie-surveillance” with smartphones, facebook etc -most of them don’t want to risk looking wrecked when pictures of them can be all over the Internet.

        I’ve got younger friends who are anarchists and they hardly take any drugs and even if they were legalised tomorrow would not increase their use.

        Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
        wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

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          @General Lighting 595503 wrote:

          PT still has the same laws but it is not a “drugs paradise” in any way; they use a lot of social engineering to discourage young people from drugs and have not made it a “party country” and even NL only puts up with drugs culture in a small part of Holland (which is not the whole country). The UK might not be officially decriminalised but there clearly are behind the scenes signs that in London, other metropolitan areas and otherwise deprived areas of North England party drugs use at music events is to some extent tolerated amongst the 16-25 age group; once you get older than that (and especially when above 30) if you get caught the cops encourage you to seek addiction treatment and/or mental health treatment even if its only party drugs use.

          Otherwise drugs laws and enforcement levels are fairly similar throughout the EU – which makes perfect sense and is one of the positive things about the EU. There are also far less youngsters doing drugs across Europe (even when NPS are taken into account) and for most of them its a passing phase which stops as they get older. A big factor is the amount of “selfie-surveillance” with smartphones, facebook etc -most of them don’t want to risk looking wrecked when pictures of them can be all over the Internet.

          I’ve got younger friends who are anarchists and they hardly take any drugs and even if they were legalised tomorrow would not increase their use.

          Thanks for this reply which gave me a lot of information i didn’t knew about EU.
          u will never spent
          Switzerland (POLY gonna say “you a bit too proud of ur country…” , but it isn’t my country as am German… ), when he said, he spent a night in the police office prison for detention and consumption and was released the next day, here u will NORMALLY never spent a night for this, as i was controlled some month ago with 1gr freebase , half gr methampetamine and (BOUHHHH for me it’s a shame, had 3 gramm of my least like drug “heroine”) was released 3 hours later.

          I said NORMALY cuz some stupid persons, most very young people thinks if they give names they will be released, what is exactly the opposite, this could be a reason to stay one night in prison until they catch the reaseller.
          Just saying i bought it from an unknown guy on a place where the drugs are most sold in a city and u never will spent for detention and consumption more than a few hours in prison.

          THE REPRESSION in Switzerland is most focused on the Albania Mafia, because the prices of heroine has fallen from 500 swiss frank (550$) per gr in 1987 to 20-25 frank a gram (sold only in 5 gr grips for 100 frank which is a big problem here cuz at this price, to many young people are trying that shit drug). And more scary is that the price went so low that now the quality is beginning to raise as there is so much of it here.
          The police has almost stopped the repression against cocain, cuz the prices hasn’t dropped as much as heroin (100 frk per gramm for excellent organic cocain) and the african which hold the market never have more than 5 gramm whith them and if they are controlled, they are released the next day ,even they knows these are selling .
          IN FAKT, SWITZERLAND HAS UNDERSTAND LONG TIME AGO THAT “WAR AGAINST DRUGS ” REPRESSION isn’t the solution.

          Y0ou must walk down switzerland highstreet like a fucking chemist iliesse :laugh_at:

          And yeah p0ly, iliesse is just a fugitive living in Switzerland LMAO

          What a place though, it must seem like paradise iliesse?


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            @Requiem 595526 wrote:

            Y0ou must walk down switzerland highstreet like a fucking chemist iliesse :laugh_at:

            And yeah p0ly, iliesse is just a fugitive living in Switzerland LMAO

            What a place though, it must seem like paradise iliesse?

            NO I WAS 6 MONTH OLD WHEN I CAME IN SWISS, MY FUGITIVE ILIVING WAS COLUMBIA IN 2004


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              @Requiem 595526 wrote:

              Y0ou must walk down switzerland highstreet like a fucking chemist iliesse :laugh_at:

              And yeah p0ly, iliesse is just a fugitive living in Switzerland LMAO

              What a place though, it must seem like paradise iliesse?

              NO I WAS 6 MONTH OLD WHEN I CAME IN SWISS, MY FUGITIVE LIVING WAS COLUMBIA IN 2004

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