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  • i notice a lot of “Asian” style names on these events. I’ve always wondered if there is a crossover between Celtic and Asian culture?

    I remember reading some news report on BBC Wales where some Welsh sheep farmers speaking to an Indian doctor noticed loads of similarities between the Welsh language and Hindi!

    General Lighting wrote:
    i notice a lot of “Asian” style names on these events. I’ve always wondered if there is a crossover between Celtic and Asian culture?

    absolutely! me too.

    there are lot of similarities between sanskrit and the gaelic language, as well as in the ancient rock art symbols and pagan cultures. which are ridiculed by historians as there is no concrete evidence that any cross-fertilisation, but considering both races are prolific travellers, and the high level of development indicated by archaeology in particularly asian cultures especially in maritime endeavors, i would say that the tw races almost certainly met. history only covers 2,000 years of mans 30,000 year long evolution, and i find historians incredibly arrogant in assuming that they know any more than a tiny fraction of what civilisation is. its a shame the celts wrote almost nothing down, as they generally distrusted the written word as it leads to dogma, and what they did write was mainly destoyed by caesars army. its a question that will never be answered, but is worthy of a lot of thought and investigation…..

    its fascinating stuff and i have spent many happy hours researching this in the past; the mythology has some similarities too.
    (mind you mythology generally does have similar veins in most pantheons)

    the language stuff is great new info i will go and read up on;
    while not specifically well read about sanskrit there are only a few root european languages: germanic and celtic being the best known and of course the latin derived languages

    the celts as a terminology is confusing as it is generally thought to have arisen from the romans to whom celtic meant “not roman” and was thought to be used to refer to all those they didnt like….
    we always get a good gigle out of folk that refer to what they play as ‘celtic’ music…..

    :alien_abd

    rajsuspect wrote:
    its fascinating stuff and i have spent many happy hours researching this in the past; the mythology has some similarities too.
    (mind you mythology generally does have similar veins in most pantheons)

    but is it similar because we veiw it as such, or is it similar because the cultures communicated, and the stories got their own slant depending on the culture? fuck nose.

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    the language stuff is great new info i will go and read up on;
    while not specifically well read about sanskrit there are only a few root european languages: germanic and celtic being the best known and of course the latin derived languages

    ive been racking my brains for where i heard this. my lady’s mum studied etymology, so it might have been her, also me girl studied archeology and she studied the link in a module, but im sure ive read it myself somewhere, and i cant think where! as soon as i remember i’ll post some links…

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    the celts as a terminology is confusing as it is generally thought to have arisen from the romans to whom celtic meant “not roman” and was thought to be used to refer to all those they didnt like….
    we always get a good gigle out of folk that refer to what they play as ‘celtic’ music…..

    its a shame the first and nearly only “historical” documentation of celtic lifestyles was by caesar, in his diaries back home when he was trying to wipe them out (caesars diaries are a wicked read btw, its easy to read and well interesting). “biased” doesnt quite cut it, he had so many reasons for skewing his reports its untrue. shame in some ways, but it makes you think that maybe if he hadnt obscured all our info we wouldnt be so romantic about those times…

    a lot of pagan related words are kind of insults, heathen means someone who lives on a heath, i presume that the heath dwellers were traditionally religiously skeptical or summat, and pagan itself just means villager or rural dweller. prolly more likely they hung onto their old beleifs longer than the city dwellers. they were used to make the pagans feel like they were backward and werent changing with times…somethings never change, eh?

    USE wrote:
    but is it similar because we veiw it as such, or is it similar because the cultures communicated, and the stories got their own slant depending on the culture? fuck nose.

    I suspect a bot of both going on

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    ive been racking my brains for where i heard this. my lady’s mum studied etymology, so it might have been her, also me girl studied archeology and she studied the link in a module, but im sure ive read it myself somewhere, and i cant think where! as soon as i remember i’ll post some links…

    i will try and remember the links to; race you? ( you will almost certainly win)

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    its a shame the first and nearly only “historical” documentation of celtic lifestyles was by caesar, in his diaries back home when he was trying to wipe them out (caesars diaries are a wicked read btw, its easy to read and well interesting). “biased” doesnt quite cut it, he had so many reasons for skewing his reports its untrue. shame in some ways, but it makes you think that maybe if he hadnt obscured all our info we wouldnt be so romantic about those times…

    have you read the Roman War Machine by John Peddy?
    very interesting stuff

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    a lot of pagan related words are kind of insults, heathen means someone who lives on a heath, i presume that the heath dwellers were traditionally religiously skeptical or summat, and pagan itself just means villager or rural dweller. prolly more likely they hung onto their old beleifs longer than the city dwellers. they were used to make the pagans feel like they were backward and werent changing with times…somethings never change, eh?

    sometimes the terms were not originally derogatory but became so in common use of the language

    RAAAAAA

    good to see you back on Partyvibe

    see you sooner

    here are some interesting links around the subject if you are interested:

    http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/html/indlexmain.htm

    http://www.google.com/Top/Science/Social_Sciences/Linguistics/Historical_Linguistics/

    http://www.answers.com/topic/etymology

    [ and have some time to read them all….:alien_abd]

    its a shame the celts wrote almost nothing down, as they generally distrusted the written word as it leads to dogma, and what they did write was mainly destoyed by caesars army. its a question that will never be answered, but is worthy of a lot of thought and investigation…..

    the celts were not a race or a nation and its wrong to link the iron age peoples the romans called celts together in such a way, let alone state why they didnt use a written language, the truth is we dont know.
    myself I like their art and the romantic view of these free, proud, warrior types but the truth is clouded in lies same as now.

    elraveon wrote:
    the celts were not a race or a nation and its wrong to link the iron age peoples the romans called celts together in such a way, let alone state why they didnt use a written language, the truth is we dont know.
    myself I like their art and the romantic view of these free, proud, warrior types but the truth is clouded in lies same as now.

    so right.:alien_abd

    what we call the celts now were just a large number of small tribes who ruled themselves; no great celtic nation existed and they had no concept of such a thing

    the celtic art describes a style which contains patterns which are seen time and time again over the course of history; [usually knotwork and spirals are what we associate as being celtic art] the evolution of the artwork of this type can be traced from the time of the ‘La Tene’ settlements to the modern day

    the romantic view of the celts was most keenly perpetuated by they who invented tartan, the victorians, and they give rise to most of the free and noble savage mythos….

    on the other hand the ‘celtic’ people [excuse my laziness in not finding a new way to group these people] had a truly remarkable level of civilisation, leaving behind amazing things and beautiful works of art as a testament to their sophistication

    :alien_abd

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