Party Vibe

The same applies for legal festivals, someone I know who works in a local Emergency Dept in SE England has had to deal with dehydrated kids where the mothers have been off partying or got mashed and left them in the tents (this was from a popular dance festival in SE England)

Thankfully all the kids recovered after minor treatment, but the NHS Ambulance Service do log these cases – eventually the licensing committes hear about this, either through official channels or “canteen banter” between paramedics and cops

But I think a young toddler going to a safe, friendly free party in the daytime with both Mum and Dad looking after him (rare enough in “normal life” these days!) isn’t in any more risk than going out to the local rec.

ah, but how do you know your babysitter isn’t going to just stick your kid in front of the idiot box or games console with a plate of junk food, and then go off into the next room to snort “bare ketiums?” whilst you are off raving?

At the last outdoor party I was at (and I think you were there too) I did see some kids but it appeared their families had brought them there in the daytime; they weren’t too near the stack and taken back home by teatime. (they also turned the space behind the back of my mates car into a makeshift creche :laugh_at:)

TBH though if you took your kids to the local play park in the daytime you could still encounter drugs users and their paraphenalia and worse anti-social behaviour from local youths. I definitely don’t think that an inner city party is a good place for kids though, nor should a party be used as a form of “childcare” by a parent who just wants somewhere to dump the kid whilst they get mashed.

I do think the age of the children is a big difference. It may seem strange but I think its more of a danger for older kids aged 10-14 who would need greater supervision as that is when they are going to want to be like “adults” and use alcohol or drugs, and many look older and could be led astray by younger teenagers who think they are about the same age.

And if they are showing any signs whatsoever of anti-social or aggressive behaviour they should not be anywhere near a rave.

That said its easy for us blokes who don’t have the commitments or responsibility of kids to make these statements.

TBH I were a dad I’d only do one or two legal festivals every year (or a small rave with a TENS) and you wouldn’t see much of me at raves or even on this forum, I would be spending my time working and/or studying to get as much money to provide for the kids (or spending time with them as a family unit)

thats why I don’t want any though :laugh_at:!