JUST SAY “NO“!
That will keep the N2O and the anti-N2O crew both happy!!!
friends of mine in the chesire crews have stopped selling the gas in recent times due to the media shining a light on the so called problems linked to using the gas.
the cops here have been discouraging some venue owners from selling it as well.. I think its not so much an outright ban but a hint that “if you sell it we will associate your venue with “drug culture” and then we have reasons to conduct checks and searches of your punters and staff”
Was it not made law gas was to be banned, punishable by fine?
(that question sounds quite forward, it isnt its just typing is harder to make a question sound ‘neutral’ if you will)
just answered my own question,
this is off a reliable site i use in my studies.
“The law
Nitrous oxide is classed under the Medicines Act, which means that it can be sold if the seller has a special licence. There is currently no offence for possession of nitrous oxide. However, there may be legal implications if nitrous oxide is sold to minors.”
http://www.thesite.org/drinkanddrugs/drugsafety/drugsatoz/nitrousoxide
it is the current law. Its just that it would require sufficient cops to actually raid a club, seize balloons, cylinder of gas and CCTV footage as evidence then do the forensic ops with the MHRA staff to prove that someone was actually selling the stuff. Then the case would have to go before Court.
Its even harder with the small metal chargers as many night time venues also sell food, or may occasionally require whipped cream for other purposes (:devilish:) and so the chargers thus may have legitimate uses.
And even then the penalty would only be a small fine.
It isn’t actually worth the govts while enforcing this law, particularly when there are so few actual casualties compared to other street drugs, and the law enforcement resources they would use could be better used dealing with “worse” drugs.
The only people who are getting angry about it are the tabloid reporters and the middle england puritans, when it doesn’t really even affect them.
mmmm very true, is it right a reporters bias can be written, printed and given to the nation?
in a Western country with relatively little censorship we don’t have to read or accept their bias.
its no different from all of us here expresing lots of pro-drug views, or similar views being expressed in youth lifestyle magazines…
even here we have a lot of freedom, at least at weekends, OK some stuff might be blocked when you are at work, but its also the “freedom” of your employers to choose what they let through the telecoms circuits they pay for.
There’s an old saying “freedom of the press is available to those who own one.”
most people do form their own views and opinions on things, I would say this country is roughly divided half and half between puritans and hedonists, although its slightly biased to the point where puritans have many positions of power.
am i right in thinking ”freedom of speech” is you are able to act and speak however you wish as long as it does not conflict with the laws of the state?
this depends a lot on the country your are in and the powers of their state apparatus, but in the West I would say its its a combination of what the laws are and what a consensus of what the bulk of the people think is acceptable.
if many laws of the UK and USA were strictly applied (particularly those relating to conspiracy and incitement) most of the rave/drugs forums could be closed down. However the bulk of the British people and even law enforcement do not seem to see them as a threat, so they are allowed to continue.
i see i see, interesting stuff really, i find that we have laws yet they are quite loosly enforced (for some more obvious reasons than others, police time and the amount of extra persons needed to enforce said laws) intriguing.
in previous threads i think the general opinion was that nitrous oxide is now made illegal for recreational use… on sat night went to a big legal event in bristol, and halfway through the night they started selling balloons, is there a loop hole for selling them or were the venue just breaking laws?
i have to say my lungs felt like they were about to collapse on sunday!
the place is soon to shut down, do they are probably ragging the fuck outta it, before it does, thatll probably be why
mmmm i doubt it, its a huge and popular club to be fair… i was just wondering that maybe if they sell the balloons just as nitrous oxide balloons and its then up to the buyer if they inhale whats in it or not then maybe its ok…?
I think thats the case to an extent.
N20 isn’t even controlled (like class A, B or C) but only restricted by the Medicines Act…
N2O sellers can technically be busted if the cops and MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Authority) work together to gain sufficient evidence, but it would be a lot of law enforcement and surveillance resources required to gain a conviction which would only be a slap on the wrist anyway.
I suspect this would only happen if the balloon sellers are also suspected of serious involvement in selling other drugs, which would then make it worth the authorities’ while going to all this trouble.
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