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April 19, 2007 at 8:09 am

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I have enjoyied them in the past, i can take them or leave them. Still fun though when your mashed on E’s raaa
April 19, 2007 at 10:29 pm

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cheeseweasel

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sounds like typical ill-informed newspaper bollocks.
April 20, 2007 at 9:47 am

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Tek Offensive

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a balloon whilst on ket is good but weird. and when the balloon wears off i always feel kinda sober, so then i do more rugs or another balloon. so in that respect their bad. but not if you only do the odd one.

theyve been using nos for years, back the victorian days or whenever it was discovered they had shows where a volenteer would go up on a stage and do some then the whole crowd would laugh as the volenteer falls about. and i dont remeber reading anything about a death resulting from a show.
April 20, 2007 at 10:35 am

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Meltown

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LaverT wrote:

like it says small doses are fine…. every now and then its pretty cool to have 1-2 balloons especially whilst your up on ecstacy feels amazing. I think its a little bit dodge… repeatedly breathing in the same air from a balloon til you run out of oxegen doesn’t sound like a good way to wrecked to me.

come on people lets think NIRTOUSOXIDE, now we might not have all paid attention in chemestry but surely you can see the link, you get too much oxygen if anything when hitting a nos balloon

Why do they give you oxygen in plane crashes???? Because oxygen gets you high!!

still there is a risk of falling over and hitting your head from the inital rush, and its true that hyperventilating anything isn’t good for you (after all oxygen is what makes us age)

but then again compair the risk’s and effects to alcohol and which one is safer???
April 20, 2007 at 4:54 pm

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angel, i think its incredibly irresponsible to re-post misinformation from rupert murdoch, when you have clearly made no effort to do any research into the subject. the reasonable thing to do would be change the title, if you genuinely have no opiniopn, and by your own admission have no clue what you are on about. laughing gas is safe unless you horrifically binge it, i would say its safer than coffee.

im really worried that this site is being used to express right-wing veiws from the sun and sky tv. please watch outfoxed on google video if you dont know what im on about.
April 20, 2007 at 5:02 pm

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Angel

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I’m sure it would have been taken down by a moderator if it was a problem..

After all..they have all been online today and nobody have said anything..

I don’t want to fight with you..

If you don’t like my threads,then don’t read them..

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April 20, 2007 at 5:36 pm

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elretardo87

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Angel wrote:

I’m sure it would have been taken down by a moderator if it was a problem..

After all..they have all been online today and nobody have said anything..

I don’t want to fight with you..

If you don’t like my threads,then don’t read them..

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he does have a valid point though, the first, and only (that I have heard of), death attributed to laughing gas was a man whose business had failed commiting suicide. This forum is for drugs information and I would definately class calling nitrous oxide “killer gas” as misinformation.

Anyhow I don’t want to start some sort of serious debate on that and derail the thread.

On topic…I hate the stuff. It ruins parties people make so much money off the shit that it begins to be about the money not the party. Other than that the waste left afterwards is attrocious, the small aluminium cannisters strewn all over the place from the small cannisters and the balloons left by the people who use it. Its a waste of money IMO.
April 20, 2007 at 5:39 pm

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Angel

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elretardo87 wrote:

would definately class calling nitrous oxide “killer gas” as misinformation.

I didn’t call it that ..the newspaper did :hopeless:
April 20, 2007 at 5:45 pm

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Sound-Guy

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Meltown wrote:

come on people lets think NIRTOUSOXIDE, now we might not have all paid attention in chemestry but surely you can see the link, you get too much oxygen if anything when hitting a nos balloon

The OXIDE in nitrous oxide doesnt mean there is loads of oxygen present. It means oxygen was put into the equation and coming out as an OXIDE. And sorry but that stuff about too much oxygen is bollox. Look at the persons lips when they do a big ballon, they clearly go a blue-ish colour which is a sign of lack of oxygen!
April 20, 2007 at 5:47 pm

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elretardo87

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Angel wrote:

I didn’t call it that ..the newspaper did :hopeless:

Like I say I don’t want to make an issue out of it or anything I was just agreeing with USE, that it is a good idea to have a read first and see if its newspaper spin.

The article itself is worth reading but the headline is definately media spin. Its nothing important so don’t worry and lets let the thread get back on track.
April 20, 2007 at 6:32 pm

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General Lighting

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the subject line of this thread has been changed to make it clear the “killer gas” comment came from a tabloid article and is not the original posters views.

I certainly don’t think its a killer gas (certainly not in the same sense as carbon monoxide, or phosgene, or hydrogen cyanide) but its always worth having discussions over the responsible use of this stuff.

At the very least, as elretardo87 pointed out, it creates a litter problem that didn’t exist as much at raves a few years ago, and I’ve heard reports of potential health problems.

TBH the main hazard for most users is the risk of sparking out due to acute (i,e sudden) oxygen deprivation and then knocking their head on something…
April 20, 2007 at 8:26 pm

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Raj

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my two pence worth:

even oxygen can be poisonous if mishandled :you_crazy and I dont like the empty metal canisters [especially if they are not being recycled :get_you:]
April 21, 2007 at 12:26 am

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MisterDuck

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this report is straight from the view of rupert murdoch. and we all know he’s a right-wing authoritarian wanker.
April 21, 2007 at 1:35 pm

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LaverT

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Meltown wrote:

come on people lets think NIRTOUSOXIDE, now we might not have all paid attention in chemestry but surely you can see the link, you get too much oxygen if anything when hitting a nos balloon

still there is a risk of falling over and hitting your head from the inital rush, and its true that hyperventilating anything isn’t good for you (after all oxygen is what makes us age)

but then again compair the risk’s and effects to alcohol and which one is safer???

You’ve already said this in another thread before and I replied saying that repeatedly breathing in the same air from a balloon means you absorb the oxegen therefore you are going to run out of it! THINK ABOUT IT!!!! you said the same thing last time…. and also nitrousoxide is different compound to oxegen hence N2O and not just O. So im pretty positive your lungs cannot detach the Nitrogen element from a chemical compound and just absorb the Oxegen. Otherwise we could drink water and breathe hence H2O and we could also breath in carbon dioxide CO2 and survive. I’m pretty positive chemistry doesn’t work like that you idiot stop trying to be so clever and read up on it first!!!! Just to finish off my rant im no chemistry expert and even if I am wrong about it containing a lot of oxegen what I said above is more than enough to explain why you run out of oxegen because you repeatedly breathe in the same air for 2+ minutes. Sorry I get a bit frustrated when people pick holes in what I say without backing it up substantially.
April 21, 2007 at 1:44 pm

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General Lighting

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at a certain party earlier this year, I was walking outside the building with a mate of mine when one of his friends turned up with a fearsome-looking piece of equipment (loads of valves and gas tubes and a big mask on the end)…

It was like something out of a movie (especially as this other chap looked like a mad scientist type :laugh_at:)

but he had been selling medical grade N2O inside and I had a chat with him about safe use. The man was NHS trained and an authorised supplier of the gas to hospitals. and explained that all the scary looking kit was how it was delivered to the patient in hospital – WITH added oxygen.

It would probably be unsafe to do this within a rave as pure oxygen creates a major fire risk if people are smoking – but you can avoid sudden oxygen deprivation by taking a normal breath after you have inhaled the gas. you still get the good effects from the gas which is mild euphoria, you are not actually supposed to feel like you are going to totally pass out or your lips turning blue! Its a case of listening to what your body is telling you…..

With recreational use there isn’t a large risk of fatal oxygen deprivation – the fatal incident was as has been mentioned on many other sources someone allegedly trying to deliberately commit suicide… but as I mentioned there is a risk of sudden unconciousness due to oxygen deprivation and thus other physical injury.

Long term use has been associated with deficiency of the Vitamin B12 in the human body, and in a single extreme case problems with the spinal cord.
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