Forums › Rave › Free Parties & Teknivals › Loud = busted or quiet = get away with it???
Been wondering this for a while, thought I’d post on here as it seems more sensible than SJ…
What sort of parties do you prefer; (assuming they all stop about 8-9am)
10k+ stacks pounding it out but having to drive for well over an hour to reach the ‘ideal’ venue and it continuing into the morning.
A much quieter event, still noisy but nowhere near 10k, maybe 2 or something, that is nice and local, within 10-20 minutes of where you live that continues into the morning.
or;
a moderate sized stack 4-10k locally but running the risk of being shut down at anytime due to noise complaints. Might get away with it, might not…
This is in the fair county of Surrey btw where there are a few nice (unused ;)) venues ideal for the smaller stack…
(Decor and lights are the same throughout)
definitely the smaller, more local ones, with rigs arranged in such a way that they do not annoy loads of locals (they need not be that small, its a matter of choosing the venue well).
I’ve been to all sorts of outdoor raves over a span of 16 years now, and as fun as big “teks” or large multiriggers are I’ve found that because of the sheer noise level [as each crew tries to sound the best] they often hot up the venue so it can never be used again, are sadly sometimes blighted by various rivalries which often erupt into actual fights. The larger events also seem to attract predators who merely arrive to bully people, steal cars or other items or rag already stolen vehicles.
Everyones safe when they are peaking on their drugs, but particularly towards the end of events which span several days or last hours into a hot summer sunday afternoon things can happen like “lord of the flies” but accompanied by a better soundtrack.
Its called “group dynamics” and can be witnessed in both human and non-human species – they start competing with each other in various ways for territory, potential partners etc. All the drugs in the world cannot completely override the negaive aspects of our own personalities…
OTOH when you’ve got a more local crowd they tend to know each other and therefore behave a bit better.
last weekend I went to a good one in a fairly “popular” venue for my new area but only two bobbies turned up and left (mind you they had brought out a CCTV car so they were clearly logging vehicle details etc). however the party was left alone and carried on until Sunday afternoon.. However it was impossible to hear outside the area (it took us a while to find it); no locals could have had a right to complain as they can’t have heard it!
:crazy_fremy personal preference is for a smaller rig so you are less likely to be busted [having said that our is a hand built fully active rig which has on occasion been known to drown out 20k passive ones]:crazy_fre
its also easier to move:crazy_fre
small local parties where you know the folk are nicer too; less nerve wracking WRT bad behaviour and possible fights…
:idea:of course the other solution is not to turn your rig volume all the way up; we achieve this by using a mixing desk to control the overall level being put out [ djs into mixer, mixer into mixing desk, mixing desk to crossovers, crossovers to amps] and tune the rig using the desk for that lush sound i demand from my rig. :crazy_fre clarity of sound is king to me :crazy_fre
It also means i have lots of headroom to use for the sound volume so i dont get that horrible distortion you can get when your kit is under powered and you are trying to squeeze more out of it:toxic: i also throw off red line monkeys after the first warning ie if they do it again they are banned for ever from playing on my rig:toxic: [there is always another dj out there..] [this just creates distortion which annoys people if left unchecked and it fools people into thinking its louder while just wrecking their hearing]
hope that helps:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:crazy_fre
loud and start a riot
:toxic:
although diverging from the subject of sound volumes and noise I think its worth bringing up this point…
many people make the mistake of thinking that the only way whereby the wider effect of raves comes to notice of the cops is either because of moaning locals/farmers or police surveillance of websites and potential venues.
Whilst this is doubtless the main reason why cops become involved, another often denied/forgotten reason is that there is an amount of car crime and other crimes associated with the larger raves and the people who attend them.
every large rave seems to attract toerags who attend the rave in one stolen vehicle which they then destroy on site or abandon; and presumably steal another one to get back home in (sadly often other ravers vehicles are targeted for this purpose).
The cops see the abandoned cars and take details of these (even if the car is burned out they can often still work out what model it was and will speculate on how it came to be there……) ; also for those unlucky enough to lose their vehicles at a rave they usually have to make a police report to get their insurance company to deal with the incident!
So the cops end up logging what must be a significant number of stolen vehicles associated with unlicensed raves (and insurance premiums of younger drivers are pushed up).
there is also a bad trend of people vandalising the surrounding areas whilst “exploring”; breaking into adjacent units, trampling fields, even trashing agricultural machinery..
It may not seem like “major crime” like terrorism etc but it still pushes up the crime figures for the area in which the rave has happened and gives cops/locals more ammunition to claim that these events must be stopped.
U Wanna go till at least midday, 6pm is my perfered finishing time
In answer to question
All my local raves are generaly 2-4k but within walkin distance (although a long walk),
suppose norfolk raves are local to they usually have a bigger stack gettin 2wards 10k (usually not well set up so its only kickin half of what it could with decent amps and so on)
they hardly ever get shut down although pigs usually turn up they jus leave em to it (usually because of the huge number of inbreds that turn up)
I also go to quite a lot of squat parties in london, guess rigs can be anything from 2-25K+ with multipul rigs, depending who where & legality ect
i prefer these to teks an stuff, smaller parties with better music
we always go for a random walk around london when the suns cumin up as well – nuttin like sittin opposite the melenium dome havin a spliff at 6am
I do love big raves but dnt always enjoy them as much as my locals, at the smaller raves everyone knows me and i know everyone there, which makes it feel like a really close community
I usally have the best time at propper heavy squat partys
di*j**ct probs the best ive been to
kss&hub link ups are always heavy too – annoyed cant make the last one b4 summer 2moz
Its not like ravin in the country side, feels like you sum where in the propperly underground uk rave scene, there are shit loads of crack feind at london parties tho – the smell can be quite off puttin
That’s why I added the finishing time in there as it’s obviously better to drive for an hour to attend a party that carries on until the evening so you can spend the whole day there.
Round my way we used to have a kind of agreement with the police that we’d be cleared up and offiste by about 9-10am. That way we’re out of sight of the majority of dog walkers in the area who would otherwise phone the police to say why aren’t you doing anything about it.
It’s all been fucked up now by various acts of vandalism by a minority at some parties so their once quite relaxed attitude has harshened…
Even if the smaller quieter parties get away with it all night, everywhere that is green and pleasant here in Surrey is invaded by dog walkers at 8am sharp every weekend. They then phone the police and they arrive at 8.30-9 Tried and tested that is!
We try to pack up about 7ish so we’re offsite and no-one even knows. Means we can rinse venues without worry (though we do rotate, not same one every time!)
Depends though on the party really. If it’s going off at 8am then I don’t think we’d turn off until forced. Gotta cater to the crowd!!
Guess i was the only one who voted loud an local but its is good to have a big noisy one on your doorstep:bigsmile:
:toxic:
hell yeah
it can be done (although harder out in the open)
30K in a warehouse earlier this year and the cops just let everyone get on with it (not too far away from where you live either)
30K in a warehouse earlier this year and the cops just let everyone get on with it (not too far away from where you live either)
Really! Closest one i have found was an outdoor one in lewknor on the oxford way thats about 3/4 miles up the road from me, but i still managed to get lost on the walk home. There was also one in stokenchurch last weekend but didnt make it.
Where abouts was this warehouse one then?
Its a tricky one and depends on location, crew and crowd.
I havent attended a free party for a couple of years now, I must have attended almost every party Exodus put on 92-2000 as well as numerous others over that period and beyond, mostly smaller ones.
My views are probably a little bias, in that I live arounfd Luton and knew lots of people that went to those parties, and just loved the whole scene at the time good and bad.
I agree with GL though any party that goes on to long risks turning nasty, Exodus would go on well into Sunday but usually the crowd would thin out to a “hardcore” of looneies that stuck togethre and knew the score, most times any trouble was quickly stamped out.
I have never really liked events that go on for days, I usually choose a day and go to them then go home, I just get to mangled as do lots of other people and it gernally get wierd in a nasty kinda way.
I havent answered the question at all and have just rambled on ..but there u go !!
i’ve just watched Bunsen’s post with the video of the Beanfield (I was in one of those buses, about knee high to a pixie)
I think this country is well overdue a revolution
but there doesn’t seem to be any central focus (poll tax was a close one), so in the absense of a rallying call…
i think we should just rise up and fight, right now. it’s gone too fucing far. we should take every opportunity to not be pragmatic or cooperative. we, you or I should start a fight with the law today
i think the next big social movement will be against the police state we are living under
and i think it should start this summer
:toxic:
I think this country is well overdue a revolution
but there doesn’t seem to be any central focus (poll tax was a close one), so in the absense of a rallying call…
i think we should just rise up and fight, right now. it’s gone too fucing far. we should take every opportunity to not be pragmatic or cooperative. we, you or I should start a fight with the law today
i think the next big social movement will be against the police state we are living under
and i think it should start this summer
:toxic:
Forward The Revolution 😉
@atm23]Forward The Revolution -)[/QUOTE wrote:
i spent 9 years of my adult life homeless, propertyless, fluid
i’ve just spent another 3 and a half years working in a sector that is supposed to be independant of government, for the people. it turns out that that same mentality will infltrate and ruin even the most trust / etical based places
so fuck it
let’s just just smash the place up
and will the last person to leave please turn out the light?
0
Voices
59
Replies
Tags
This topic has no tags
Forums › Rave › Free Parties & Teknivals › Loud = busted or quiet = get away with it???