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June 10, 2006 at 8:18 am

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General Lighting

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globalloon wrote:

i think the next big social movement will be against the police state we are living under

and i think it should start this summer

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its already happening – but the problem TBH is that in Britain we fight amongst ourselves and do the cops work for them

look at “Londonistan” for instance – its not as if there isn’t anger on the streets, there is bare ruckus and brawls with knives and even guns every weekend.

but its young working class kids killing one another over fuck all.

It is getting worse because I’ve been reading local media and checking out crime reports for 10 years now; I know all the spin/tricks that some local papers use to make you think there is more crime but even without this the actual amount of incidents does seem to be increasing..

blair is clearly scared of the youth, not only are young Asian kids being fired upon by cops because of hearsay, young white lads are being hauled off planes and out of pubs right now because they are just talking about having a fight over football (they haven’t even been proven to be involved in hooliganism). Black people have been closely watched and controlled since they came here and started asserting themselves. Operation Trident started in 1987 following problems at the Notting Hill Carnival. – something which isn’t mentioned at all by the cops or media

Even here in “Sleepy suffolk” you can sense the anger amongst some of the kids of the streets as the lockdowns start (a lot of things seem to “randomly catch on fire” in certain estates)

I think the rebellion is already happening but it is not a good one, it is a wrongly directed surge of hate and anger which is claiming a lot of innocent casualties..

more recently there was a rallying call on the rave scene – Exodus nearly achieved the combination of party lifestyles with a more equitable community and it inspired a lot of others (atm23 should know this)

but is anyone here actually prepared to give what Exodus did another try? (NB: its not as simple as cooking up ketamine!)
June 10, 2006 at 8:31 am

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Tek Offensive

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General Lighting wrote:

30K in a warehouse earlier this year and the cops just let everyone get on with it (not too far away from where you live either)

missed that one 🙁 saw some photos tho, what a rig! apparently rather than try to bust the party they busted as many ppl as possible for other offenses. some one from my village lost his license cos of that
June 10, 2006 at 8:34 am

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“more recently there was a rallying call on the rave scene – Exodus nearly achieved the combination of party lifestyles with a more equitable community and it inspired a lot of others (atm23 should know this)

but is anyone here actually prepared to give what Exodus did another try? (NB: its not as simple as cooking up ketamine!)”

Exodus took up the struggle, not just with the state / babylon but with our own human weaknesses. I was never “crew” or “collective” and never had any desire or need to be.
In the end they “all floated down stream on a sinking eutopia” I’m not sure their style of communal living and political / religious beliefs was ever truley sustainable but at least they gave it a go.
If they had been left alone by OB etc who knows what they might have achieved but IMO much of the downfall wa due to internal polytricks and little else.
All of that said I never signed up that it was “crew” or Collective” that drove that scene imo it was the 1000’s that turned up that actually changed the world…or at least the face of youth culture. The lasting feelings of unity and collective conciousness are still a power to this day.
The revolution has to take place on mass in peoples conciousness, it wont come from from some centralised religoen or belief system…..or have a read to much Mckenna !
June 10, 2006 at 10:31 am

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Squat Monkey wrote:

missed that one 🙁 saw some photos tho, what a rig! apparently rather than try to bust the party they busted as many ppl as possible for other offenses. some one from my village lost his license cos of that

this is normal practice nowadays – most raves attract a lot of traffic cops. TVP has a particularly large number of traffic cops anyway because of the 3 motorways in the force area.

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Exodus took up the struggle, not just with the state / babylon but with our own human weaknesses. I was never “crew” or “collective” and never had any desire or need to be.
In the end they “all floated down stream on a sinking eutopia” I’m not sure their style of communal living and political / religious beliefs was ever truley sustainable but at least they gave it a go.

I don’t think “babylon” can be blamed for their downfall (by that stage they had taken them on and won a lot of the battles!) but their ethos was a bit flawed ; it was after all cherry-picked from hippy activism, rastafarianism and North/East London gang/street culture and IMO they had a few problems like misogyny and looking up to the “hard man/gangsta culture” (which affect lots of other crews as well!)

they did remarkably well to be fair though and actually influenced Government policy to be more tolerant of these sorts of “alternative ventures” (ministers do not suddenly u-turn and stop evictions at the last minute until they have discussed it with a few people).

Its a big shame it came to nothing as it would have otherwise influenced a lot of people throughout the East of England and beyond had things gone better…

That said I don’t think raves alone are much of a “revolutionary force”. They are energy and resource-intensive and can divert people from actually taking action to make their lifestyles better (if only because of the recovery time needed!).
June 10, 2006 at 12:51 pm

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atm23

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I could make alsorts of statements about the reasons behind the downfall of the Exodus Collective, but it has all been said before…beware the enemy within
June 11, 2006 at 3:59 pm

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globalloon

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General Lighting wrote:

That said I don’t think raves alone are much of a “revolutionary force”. They are energy and resource-intensive and can divert people from actually taking action to make their lifestyles better (if only because of the recovery time needed!).

i think if you’re doing other positive stuff, a party can be a good place to plant seeds in the minds of people who know they don’t agree with mainstream culture / politics etc, but are a bit lost as to what to do about it
June 11, 2006 at 5:13 pm

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Squat Monkey wrote:

missed that one 🙁 saw some photos tho, what a rig! apparently rather than try to bust the party they busted as many ppl as possible for other offenses. some one from my village lost his license cos of that

Who was that?
June 12, 2006 at 4:56 am

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Small and intimate’s definately the way…
June 12, 2006 at 8:47 am

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.a.n.t.

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Even those are getting screwed over now…. (gunna raise another post about this weekends shambles…….)
June 12, 2006 at 2:13 pm

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arkadarka

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i would rather have a 10k soundsystem personally but if having
a small one ment going till 6oclock the next day then i would have that but when you get to a cirtan amount at the party small just isnt feasable:cool:
July 3, 2006 at 4:25 pm

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stax

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yep pack away to rave another day
August 28, 2006 at 10:50 pm

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Acidfairy

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Too big a rig for the area has been part of the problem with some of the parties up here gettin busted.. the one i was at the other week where i had the boys in blue quizzin me was a link up that made a total of 15k.. no wonder we had noise complaints from 5 miles away wi ma screamin 303 noises.. :crazy:
August 29, 2006 at 8:36 pm

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miss bassets

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 303 :bounce_g: :bounce_fl :bounce_g:
August 29, 2006 at 11:03 pm

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Acidfairy

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miss bassets wrote:

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 303 :bounce_g: :bounce_fl :bounce_g:

haha yup i love it too.. prob is the polis don’t seem to like it much i think they can handle kick drums but when combined with the warped noises of the 303 they don’t know what to do… :crazy_diz
August 31, 2006 at 10:34 am

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miss bassets

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Acidfairy wrote:

haha yup i love it too.. prob is the polis don’t seem to like it much i think they can handle kick drums but when combined with the warped noises of the 303 they don’t know what to do… :crazy_diz

hehe yer but to b honest wen i hear sum of that 303 even i dunno wot 2 do!! lol i find wavin ur arms like a loony helps maybe i shud let the polis in on that 1 😉
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