Party Vibe

To be fair it probably is perfectly decent stuff.

However it is now illegal across most of Europe; a lot of the USA and Asian countries even if the laws have only changed a few years ago.

The countries which were first to make it illegal were modern countries with well developed healthcare systems and a fairly tolerant attitude to recreational drugs use.

This isn’t a coincidence or hipocrisy as methylone suffers the same flaws at its more popular cousin mephedrone; a small amount can be fun but it doesn’t take much more before you feel quite ill and/or can make existing physical and mental health problems worse.

10 or even 6 years ago you could have sold this stuff by the kilo online in plain sight (using nothing more than standard encryption to keep your bank account info safe) and no authority would have done jack shit about it as they didn’t realise it was even that popular and its use hadn’t reached such levels that people were ending up in hospital or doctors surgeries from it.

By 2009/10 binge use in Northern Europe led to it being classified; but there is a more modern law often used where importing/selling it is seen as a worse crime than simply posessing it. Currently in the UK and DE it is on the same classification level as other more tried and trusted amfetamine-type stimulants; and in these countries an atittude where many think if they are going to risk being nicked for drugs they might as well get “the real stuff”…

A lot of countries do seem to be turning a blind eye to domestic online sale and usage of controlled substances as long as its not blatant “amazon style” shops as I suspect the cops would rather have young people doing smaller amounts “where they can see them” rather than getting mixed up in darknet markets which have also been found to be full with people selling stolen personal ID details, guns, kinderporno and everything else that genuinely is unpleasant or restricted for a good reason.

Methylone is sometimes sold as MDMC in this bit of the UK to be fair I can see why it would remain popular especially with younger people.

The EDM scene isn’t as big as it once was and many young people either still live in family houses or in relatively small flats/houses where turning up a sound system to full blast gets you in trouble; or they have work/family responsibilities at weekends or are at University for the right reasons [i.e they want to be there and were not forced to by their parents]

Real MDMA which lasts 4-8 hours and is best enjoyed with good music as well as good friends is often “too much” for todays lifestyles.

Selling these cathinones also means if/when a dealer gets nicked they are less likely to get prison for class B dealing compared to class A. (usually probation/community service/suspended prison sentence as long as they are not mixed up in any other crime).

It is still a very bad idea to try importing stuff across national borders unless you are prepared risk penalties which in the UK can include around 5 years prison time and/or personal info about you and your family circumstances being exposed in the local and national press (a big problem in a small country!)

Added to that your chance of employment reduces to around 33% even if you have qualifications/experience etc – I got this figure about 10 years ago via someone working with NACRO [link below]. Other North European countries might have better rehab and guarding of minor offenders and their families privacy; but getting nicked is still unpleasant and still has some lasting consequences (CRB/DBS type vetting for any decent jobs exists across the EU these days)

https://www.nacro.org.uk/

@tryptameanie 975477 wrote:

Well that sucks as MDMC is listed as EDMA or Ethylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine. What a bastard that is as it’s a totaly different compound to bk-MDMA even though both were synthesized by Shulgin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMC_%28disambiguation%29

interesting – although here in the East of England its fairly well known that MDMC is “something like mephedrone and claimed to be like MDMA but not quite as good”. incidentally the stuff also remained popular and was sold in “street dealing” even during the time when it and other cathinones were easily available online (at least to those who were over 18, had a credit or debit card and could operate a computer) – this was around 2009/10 just before the moral panic/bans and when good MDMA (even in pill form) had also returned to the market.

it was at least a better situation than 2008 where a rough mixture of MDMA, various cathinones and/or inert filler in varying proportions was sold as “MDMA” to the point even the better dealers were ashamed to sell it. this combination may well be what Americans call “Molly”.

if noone anywhere in the world has made use of the discovery of EDMA either it is because its “already classified” under analogues laws in USA and other countries and/or the effort in synthing it doesn’t make it worthwhile.

That said I remember reading about the 2-C* substances online in late 1991 but did not encounter them in real life until 2004/5; and was initiallly wary about taking them as the 1991 reports made them sound a bit scary if done in excess/wrong combination!