funkydan wrote:
went to this party an thought it was good but not to sure on the whole middle of the street warehouse parties.
When I lived in SE England used to go to loads of good ones but I think crews have to be very careful what sort of warehouse gets partied.
East Anglia is still more of a “boom” area compared to SE England (where there has been a downturn in the economy), there is greater demand for commercial property and less of it (as there are less cities), so often a building is between lets rather than being just abandoned.
If this is the case building owners are far more likely to ask the Police to clear people out of it as there are a lot of people at raves who vandalise the warehouses. A lot of the backlash was because local businesses got pissed off with people causing tens of thousands worth of damage to buildings worth millions. Many locals didn’t even mind the raves so much provided they finished by sunday afternoon – but it was mindless vandalism (plumbing being ripped out , every surface tagged etc) and ravers targeting adjacent buildings to rob them which made people (justifiably!) angry.
This “riot” business is not something that only happens in Norfolk, it happened in Bristol, Reading and other places a few years back – and with each riot cops stepped up the enforcement and won. People got hurt, rigs got taken, now there are less crews and less parties in those areas.
I do agree that a larger party with 3 rigs with clued-up people working together could be better as thats how it used to work in SE England for many years – but it needs more solidarity than what you lot currently have – and already too many venues and certain areas get caned too often so there is more opposition (the same areas do seem to get continually targets – this doesn’t make sense in a county the sheer size of Norfolk).
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alot more unwanted people ho dont normally go to parties an think it ould be fun just to go an cause a lil bit of trouble cos its there type of fun.
As someone whose been partying for years I don’t think this is the case, its easy to blame “townies” but I find they tend to avoid the raves because “its full of druggies innit” and they are actually a bit scared!
IMO its more that a minority of “party people” themselves (and again this is NOT unique to Norfolk) enjoy a “bit of a ruck”. If there aren’t coppers to fight they will rob something out of a car, or vandalise something, or get a bit too aggressive in the stack. I’ve seen this shit happen over the last few years at many parties across the UK.
As for fighting the cops, if people could overpower cops whenever they disagreed with the laws it wouldn’t be safe to have raves as more violent gangsters would take over the warehouses and travellers sites and enforce their law with knives, guns etc – as violence becomes “part of the gam”. People also seem to forget that in foreign countries where “citizens stand up for themselves more” (i.e riot a bit more often) more of the cops tend to be armed and there are Gendarmes or Militia as well as just Police!
