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@GiantMidget 423427 wrote:

Emdadur Choudhury is part of Muslims Against Crusades. The MAC primarily hate the British military and foreign policy but I have heard them in interviews and in other media outlets expressing their hatred of our way of life.

I think it is an important issue that will become bigger in the public eye, the right for people to live here who do not like our way of life.

Although it worries me we are all meant to ascribe to the same way of life if we are white and native. I dislike a lot of our “culture”. It all reminds me of the punk movment and societys dislike for its view points. God save the queen [the song] caused (in some respects) a simular upset. Yet these days I dont think many people think Johnny Rotten should have been hung.

@GiantMidget 423430 wrote:

To honest I think mockery would of been a better punishment for these fuckers. From now on laughter is the order of the day. Whatever they do I am going to just laugh at them. maybe do a counter demonstration when they next protest and have a few hundred people point and laugh hysterically at them (while wearing poppies)

Could be a winner! raaa

laughing at things like that is one of the best offensives. The reaction they have created was the whole point of the burning in the first place. Nice plan raaa

We could drink poppies-tea?

@!sinner69! 423434 wrote:

We could drink poppies-tea?

keep meaning to get round to that but dont want to knacker the blender

@extraslim 423418 wrote:

I think they would probably point out how many people we killed in their country and suggest that the burning of a symbol is a tad less disrespectful than blowing up children.

I can think of a few things that our part of our culture that I dont show respect for, wife battering and drunken friday night violence to name but two.

Not having a go at all just trying to put across how perspective is everything and how our laws protect rights not popularity.

wife battering and drunken friday nights are parts of british culture really.. it happens everywhere and it doesn’t define our culture. but poppy day does. i’m always open to both sides of the story but i don’t think there’s any way i could justify what these people did, i find it really sickening. there are other ways they could have protested that wouldn’t have been so disrespectful to people who gave their life for this country.

@harr!et 423583 wrote:

wife battering and drunken friday nights are parts of british culture really.. it happens everywhere and it doesn’t define our culture. but poppy day does. i’m always open to both sides of the story but i don’t think there’s any way i could justify what these people did, i find it really sickening. there are other ways they could have protested that wouldn’t have been so disrespectful to people who gave their life for this country.

it doesnt happen everywhere and it is part of our culture, or at least, I would argue that. Not sure its a fact. I think the point is that no matter how personally offensive you find an act, people in a free society have a right to commit it. I am not saying what they did was right though, I just think discussing things and debating things seems important. Its also important to note I am not defending these people I am just trying to further debate.

I think the right to cause offence is very important, I would hate to see the daily mail bregade stop that. People can offend me as much as they like and I can hate it. I would sitlll die to protect their freedom to say it.

The simplistic emotien driven responses to the world are easy, a more pragmatic view is harder but inferentially more fulfilling.

@extraslim 423590 wrote:

I think the right to cause offence is very important

I’m with you on this. Indeed if we started outlawing things that caused offense the majority of comedy would end up illegal, which is always offensive to someone.

Offense is subjective so it shouldn’t be legislated for. Would people feel differently if someone was dressed up as Jesus in a bikini playing a trombone outside a church on good friday? I imagine half the people offended by this protest wouldn’t care about that. The only difference is that opinion is more divided on religion than it is on war veterans.

Although I don’t support the poppy burning in any way, I do support freedom of expression and I would much prefer someone to express their anger, displeasure or to make a point through a symbolic gesture rather than through violence, or say flying a plane into a building. The fact it was such a sensitive time and issue simply raises the impact and attention for the message they were seeking. The implications of this work in the same way controversy is used in PR, it’s a double edged sword for the person trying to communicate a message. I’m sure they will face severe consequences of being hated by the majority of the nation they live in that don’t need a judge to deliver. And again, I would like to know what they were trying to achieve and why they felt the ended to perform such a controversial and offensive act against the country providing them with accomodation and money