Forums › Rave › Free Parties & Teknivals › PARTY: Illegal ravers anger villagers
PARTY: Illegal ravers anger villagers
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk
AN ILLEGAL rave attended by thousands of people on a former Ministry of Defence site has left residents fuming.
Huge convoys of cars and vans began arriving at the private land, off the A47 near the village of King’s Cliffe, near Oundle, on Saturday evening.
Chains on a security gate were removed with heavy cutting gear.
It is thought that more than 4,000 people from across the region travelled to the rave after details of it were posted on the internet.
Residents said ravers could be seen racing cars, drinking, dancing and lighting bonfires as a powerful sound system churned out loud music all Saturday night. The last of ravers finally left the site yesterday, leaving behind their litter and other rubbish.
Police officers were at the scene and kept a close eye on the situation, but said they decided not to force the ravers to move on in case disorder broke out.
Local residents say it’s simply not enough and tougher action should have been taken.
Bernard Howard, a member of King’s Cliffe Parish Council, owns an arable farm which backs on to the site.
He said: “There were people there who were openly drinking and taking drugs, then driving their cars both on and off the site.
“If they killed somebody on the A47 or on a nearby road it will be the fault of the police. All they were doing was observing, when they should have been stopping all vehicles going in and out, carrying out breath tests and searching for drugs.”
The land was formerly part of nearby RAF Wittering, but was decommissioned three years ago and is currently up for sale.
Mr Howard said there had been six raves on the site since the RAF left.
He added: “Why should we have to put up with load music all day and night and having rubbish strewn all over the place?
“This is by far the biggest of all the raves that have taken place here and everyone in Kings Cliffe is furious at the way it has been dealt with by the police.”
Officers from both Cambridgeshire and Northamptonshire police were monitoring the rave. A police helicopter was seen circling the site.
Inspector Clinton Hale, of Cambridgeshire police, said officers had not sought to forcibly remove people from the site because of fears it could turn violent.
He said: “There were too many people there and we did not have enough officers on duty to deal with it safely.
“In this sort of situation, if we sent a team of officers in, it could potentially develop into a riot.
“We will, though, be collecting intelligence and will deal with the organisers.”
Inspector Hale said local officers received a call on Saturday from colleagues in Suffolk to say they believed a rave was planned for the area.
Within hours huge convoys of cars and vans were spotted travelling along the A47 towards the site.
Norfolk police trailed one convoy which had set off from the Thetford area and it is thought other ravers had travelled from Northampton, Luton, Bedford and Wisbech.
18 April 2006
hmmmmm the name howard rings a bell I wonder if he is related to the duke of norfolk who is the earl of surrey amongst other titles and bernard is a family name of that gang of aristos, bit of a coincedence I hope because if he is related he will be able to move the establisment to his will. ps not all aristos have titles.
I wasnt there but I remember the first news reports said about 600 people so where did this 4000 number come from in this report and which was reported in a thread title on this site the same day as this news report.
and is it a lie that it was made public on the internet. either way be very careful
and is it a lie that it was made public on the internet. either way be very careful
I wouldn’t say it was a lie – and lets face it whether there was 600 there, 4000 there or 20 and a dead sheep, as you know yourself the toffs are gonna be angry.
This is a nation of whingers after all (and complaining transcends all class boundaries)
it was mentioned in the other threads – 600 was the number cops and BBC counted towards the end of the party, others who were there said 2000-3000 before this report came out
I did a (quick and rather sketchy) headcount at the recent Reading warehouse party out of curiosity and decided there was about 1000 there at peak times.
because of cops shutting down events elsewhere there was about 4 East Anglian counties extra worth of ravers, and a lot of SE and London heads as well
so 4000 seems perfectly feasible to me and TBH wouldn’t have made much of an impact on the site or surroundings.
if anything media play down the numbers at raves as no one wants to admit how popular this scene still is years after 3 separate attempts to supress it.
what people do need to be careful about is an attempt at PEL prosecutions down the line which is why I’m trying to discourage the posting of photos of this rave on here…
hi GL I meant was it a lie that “people from across the region travelled to the rave after details of it were posted on the internet.” not the number of people thats just seems strange the the bbc say 600 and on this site somebody said it was 4000 the same day this report on the peteroboro uk site posted theirs.
This is a nation of whingers after all (and complaining transcends all class boundaries)
we are a nation of whingers because of the class boundaries, its the reason we have so much to moan about.
and fucking hell you must type quick 😉 and read 😉
maybe the poster on here got the number 4000 from the website(peterboro) either way the PEL was at the crux of my comments and we ignore the aristo connection to recent case’s and police operations at our peril, of course ordinary people are involved we are all either upper or lower class
i see what you mean about the internet comment; OTOH I reckon people speak to aunties journos at raves sites and say things like that to them.
Auntie and ITV know all about us, and they know all about squatjuice as well. the lie is that anyone posts detailed info about raves before they happen, but it can easily be argued that without the internet its harder to find out about raves. The subcultures grew up together.
often the sort of journo who turns up at a free party is a pretty young lady or a friendly young bloke in their 20s or 30s who discreetly arrives on site at a slightly different time to the cops (but of course always has their protection if required) ; and/or people are exhbitionist and like to get themselves on telly.
oh, and my typing speed is 55 wpm+ – as good as that required for those who monitor and follow us..
Auntie and ITV know all about us, and they know all about squatjuice as well. the lie is that anyone posts detailed info about raves before they happen, but it can easily be argued that without the internet its harder to find out about raves. The subcultures grew up together.
often the sort of journo who turns up at a free party is a pretty young lady or a friendly young bloke in their 20s or 30s who discreetly arrives on site at a slightly different time to the cops (but of course always has their protection if required) ; and/or people are exhbitionist and like to get themselves on telly.
I did edit what I wrote and added some stuff but it dosnt matter to this point:)
I know mostly that detailed info is not posted but any info in the public domain before the event is evidence that can be used against rigs and dj’s, after its mostly only evidence that they were there, if it was private they can argue it dosnt matter they were there as it is not illegal. tbh at the moment the less said about parties the better, the new addmendments havent been tested and they are likely to give people enough rope
it can easily be argued that without the internet its harder to find out about raves. The subcultures grew up together.
I would argue that now these forums are for enthuiasts not members of the general public. I would have them throw that in my face because some people consider that they party for the public, nevertheless I would argue that they are wrong,
I think we need to strike a balance between honest reporting of what happens at raves (good or bad) and security/paranoia..
clearly we should never discuss events in advance, but once they have happened everyone knows they have happened – ravers, cops, locals – why not talk about the good side of our events, challenge some misconceptions using sites like this – the only free media we have – and try and keep morale up?
Raving can actually be hard on the body and mind; I know way too many people (ravers and ex-ravers) who seem to suffer depression and a lot of this is because of the constant stigma and negative judgement they experience in society, including sometimes from their own peers.
People need a morale-booster yet at the same time to deal with problems in a robust manner and this IMO is what this site is all about.
as for public/enthusiasts its a difficult one to prove but I see what you mean.
I use lots of other forums for things like cycling, nature watching, technology/electronics etc, and on these I start off as a member of the public and then become an enthusiast
at the same time I lurk on other places where there are people I do not agree with and gain info from these sites.
I always thought the old adage of assuming that everywhere you discuss stuff the CID and your mum were reading is a good one (it doesn’t stop me talking about all sorts of things!)
clearly we should never discuss events in advance, but once they have happened everyone knows they have happened – ravers, cops, locals – why not talk about the good side of our events, challenge some misconceptions using sites like this – the only free media we have – and try and keep morale up?
Raving can actually be hard on the body and mind; I know way too many people (ravers and ex-ravers) who seem to suffer depression and a lot of this is because of the constant stigma and negative judgement they experience in society, including sometimes from their own peers.
People need a morale-booster yet at the same time to deal with problems in a robust manner and this IMO is what this site is all about.
I never said dont talk about parties and did explain the use they have put pre and post internet evidence.
I understand what you are saying and it would be a mistake to lose the communication and the community that is gained from sites such as these.
words however are two edged swords. and careless talk costs rigs or our freedom
I wasnt there but I remember the first news reports said about 600 people so where did this 4000 number come from in this report and which was reported in a thread title on this site the same day as this news report.
and is it a lie that it was made public on the internet. either way be very careful
i was the person who said 4000 was reasonably accurate. i walked around the entire site at the party’s peek and did a rough count and beleive you me there was a lot of ppl / cars. someone i spoke to said they let over 1500 cars between 11.00pm-3.00am through the gate alone. let alone the other ppl who took over from him at 3.00am.
i would say on average there would be 3 ppl per car. that make 4500 ppl at the rave and i do feel those are conservative figures.
i find when most ppl say there was X amount of ppl at a rave , all they do is count the ppl on the dance floor or ppl who are standing next to it. they seem to not include ppl who are walking around the site or are sat in their cars.
i would say on average there would be 3 ppl per car. that make 4500 ppl at the rave and i do feel those are conservative figures.
i find when most ppl say there was X amount of ppl at a rave , all they do is count the ppl on the dance floor or ppl who are standing next to it. they seem to not include ppl who are walking around the site or are sat in their cars.
I dont disagree with your figures, I just pointing out the coincedence with the peterboro web site but it was the lesser point I was trying to make
0
Voices
9
Replies
Tags
This topic has no tags
Forums › Rave › Free Parties & Teknivals › PARTY: Illegal ravers anger villagers
