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I beleive the are conducting a war on freedom, and because of various efforts i have made over the last five years, i haven’t committed an act of militancy since 99 when i sabotaged 30 odd cctv cameras in a certain town centre. this is where i learnt my lesson, as all that happened was yet more cameras were errected at the top of their own purpose built concrete posts. all i did was waste some council money. (luckily it was in an affluent area where the funds would not have been properly used, so no biggie. if id done it in a deprived / run down area, i would be thouroughly ashamed.
as an autonomous individual, i do not recognise the authority of the police and therefore regard them as i would any arbitary brute squad who have conspired to kidnap and brutalise myself and my freinds. they have commited acts of militancy on us, which according to most protocol is defined as an act of war. a war on personal liberty and freedom.
but, you are so right, violence doesnt solve a thing, which is why im biding my time, staying out of the rozzers way, and slowly building a powerbase from which i can effect [positive change in our socio-political system. i do not advocate voilence toward anyone, even pigs, as all this does is negate your own worth ( how is anyone going to respect someone who takes out voilence with violence- no real change has happemed. while im not religious, turning the other cheek to the bastids seems to be the order of the day, the pigs’ll never respect us if we sink to their scummy level.
sorry if i offended and shocked you all, i dont normally bring these ideas to bear, as they are negative and counterproductive. that is not to say that if the shoe were on the other foot, at least half the politicans and police would be rotting in jail, where they belong….
dont know how many hiphop heads are bout, but check out skorsayzee’s tune GREAT BRITAIN:
if i had an army i would fight ya,
if i was the police i’d arrest ya,
if i had my own court, my own judge and jury,
i’d sit back and let history tell the story.
we live in one of the most oppresive, bloody regimes in the world (yea there are more fuctup counrties, but we funded and set them up.{iraq, east timor, korea, sudan etc}) after usa we have murdered and maligned more folks than any other counrty going. our government is who should really get blown up, at he end of the day the pigs just follow orders, its folks like micael howard and tony blair that should be tried for crimes against humanity. i find it hard to respect any one who lives in this counrty (including myself) as our taxes are used to kill and maim our brothers and sisters around the world. if we really gave a shit about them ,we would move country or refuse taxation. why dont we? we are selfish people livin selfish lives in a selfish country.
WAKE UP GREAT BRITAIN
Originally posted by BioTech
I understand your anger. But i’m alarmed that you would actually consider yourself to be carrying out a violent war against the Police.
If a someone from an opposing group is hurt or killed they often have family as well and they will fight back. Look at the news reports from Nottingham and Liverpool where long-running feuds are costing bare lives!
whilst saying you have family friends who are in that group – Essentially you are saying you are willing to take the fight back even to your own friends and family.
And cops are only doing what the rest of society want them to do – those who do not share our lifestyles but worked hard and feel we are “living off their resources” without putting anything back in return. They (normal civillians) too may want to carry on the fight. Are you prepared to fight them as well?
OK – everyone knows violence, used in a planned and calculated manner is powerful. People talk about 9/11 today and it was 3 years ago – how many other things that happened 3 years ago can others remember?
But it NEVER creates a positive outcome.
Even when people start out with good intentions (like Russia/USSR) – the violent revolution was supposed to liberate people but oppressed them. And staying in that part of the world, anyone saw what happened in Russia today? THIS is what happens when groups sort out their differences by physical force (and for that matter uniformed authorities lose their cool!)
Shitloads of people dead, more hate and anger; and it would not even suprise me if when I am middle aged, the kids who survived todays events (young boys especially) will be the ones who will raise a hammer and sickle back over a Moscow swarming with heavy weapons and perhaps more missiles, nukes; the same situation which gave me sleepless nights as a teenager.
Is that progress?
That’s exactly what will happen imo 🙁
Those kids have been caught up in something that they have no responsibilty for. But no doubt now that they have seen their friends being maimed and killed they will harbour that hatred for the rest of their lives. Which will, like you say, end up with them taking the war to the opposite side. Some of them may think outside the box (I hope so). But it’s probably hard to look at the situation objectively at such a young age. Especially when friends are concerned.
I’m not sure i’d advocate blowing them. But you definately have the right idea as far as the Police being puppets of other more sinister individuals.
nah blowing them up would martyr and consolidate them. we just need an actual justice systemthat persecutes ALL criminals, not just working class / minor ones. the police are understandably scared of persecuting major / rich criminals, but they dont have the laws powers or support to back it up. therefore we all get vexed that they only go for the easy hits or the media payoffs. blowing them up wouldnt make things better, but tony blair does deserve lots of pain, so he understands his actions. he’s so detatched from reality he no longer can relate to his actions and understand the consequences.. the whole of british and american governance needs to be stripped naked and air dropped in the middle of bahgdad and see how they like it…..
…..the only person to be evicted from the labour party since tony b wa sthe man who asked to be payed the same as his average consituant. the powers that be do not want mps to represent the people. remember the tuition fee vote? the black rod was employed to tell anyone who voted against the bill that they were destroying tony blair and their party, and so instead of debating the issue, it became a popularity conest that now means that we have no state education past 6th form… which labour set up. the bottom line is that we no longer live in a working democracy, and there fore it is our duty to forcably eject those opposed to a working democracy. there are lawyers who have been trying to presecte blair for war crimes, but our justice system is in the pocket of governance, who is in the pocket of corporations
we may livein a dictatorship, but dont give up!
FUCK NOT VOTING, GIVE THE GREENS A CHANCE!
go check their website, they actually have proper policies now!
Doesnt anything change??
Wasn’t it 1991, a particularly vintage year for raving outdoors, when media, police etc got interested in what was going on.
Then 1992, Lechlade, and Castlemorton and it all came on top.
Like a great wave crashing on to the shore. Then drawing back into the ocean. Now it seems the rave (i mean Wave!) is ready to return.
Let us surf into the future
Originally posted by imonone23
Doesnt anything change??
Wasn’t it 1991, a particularly vintage year for raving outdoors, when media, police etc got interested in what was going on.
Then 1992, Lechlade, and Castlemorton and it all came on top.
Like a great wave crashing on to the shore. Then drawing back into the ocean. Now it seems the rave (i mean Wave!) is ready to return.Let us surf into the future
I certainly agree with you that there is a distinct feeling of déja vu here; but the “wave of raves” has already passed. This is a backlash against a resurgence in free party culture which occured betwee 1998-2003 – the locals were equally pissed off 4 years ago but luckily for us it takes a very long time for Parliament, Whitehall and the councils and cops to translate their moans and whinges into legislation and beef up the anti-rave enforcement.
It doesn’t mean that parties won’t continue; but perhaps the days of huge unlicensed multi-riggers are over. I do not think its possible to prevent disruption to locals without some sort of “conventional” stewarding/security arrangement – the UK is just too small for this!
That said I can’t help wonder if the removal of agricultural subsidies across Europe may create surplus land in the UK that even the landowners may want to be used for festivals?
It would probably have to be run on a licensed basis (face it, if we didn’t involve the authorities the real gangsters would want a piece of the action and there would be bloodshed) but events like the Guildford Ambient Festival showed it is possible to do this without rinsing the punters or being over-commercialised/over-managed.
But if people aren’t willing to make these concessions; then perhaps its back to smaller parties with 2-3 crews in places where they won’t cause too much disturbance and get shut down…
…babylon system…but that includes drug dealing as well as other sorts of dealing in this situation (the west).
re violence: I recall vividly channelling some sort of real Arthur vibe at Hillgrove cat farm demo. (the tribal druidic power was real Cymru as from massive empowerment at the Brewery fields/Eithinog protest squat)…the hooded up masses turned into the demon made from all the tortured cats…the riots squad several hundred were literally trunced!..thrown back into the 8″ high steel compound protecting the cat abuser. The interesting thing was that as they were going to slam the doors shut, a senior cop pushed outside a jounior cop…right into the apex of this charge…Bang bang bang….the guy was getting hammered…I felt a smile cover my face…then conscious switching in…the spell was broken…the charge disipated. Very clever huh?
I don’t really belive in violence as I am a reincarnated Tibet monk…but that was satisfying. North wales police especially the ethnic welsh nazi scum) as vermin and should be shot on sight by any true sons of glyndwr.
Raves? stop dealing and start sharing you perverted scum. How fucking dare you bunch of bwitish pricks treat me like some sort of nonce. (you know who you are, and you know who I am). HOW FUCKING DARE YOU.
CYMRU TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY!
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