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got to agree. . . .I havent worked for the past 6 years to get in a position to actually start change quietly from within . . to be exposed by BBC . .ITV or any of that poo. . sell anybody anywhere anytime. . dont take the bait . .all you will do is save police time on capturing faces. .on video . . no all bad bad bad. .human bait . . ego. .envy. .money. .don’t go their freind. . unless you are tempted. .
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Srry lou, I hope noboddy will be a portal to free parties for you for this documentry. I learned and experienced that the media can’t be trusted in this matter. Besides, its better that not much people know about partying this way, otherwise the underground music could be in danger.
I prefer to keep it underground and not notify a lot af people with it.
Besides I think that nobody from these parties will guide you. If they will do it Tell them first to think about the consequenses.
Have a good time searching for nothing! I hope!
Cya
Under current BBC policy these sort of programmes are supposed to represent a “balanced view” – that means the Police get their say as well – either as part of the programme or from putting in a formal complaint about it “promoting illegal activity”. and we all know what can happen here 🙁
True, but the complaint would only affect the film crew/producers/TV channel, as the law are gonna try to stop the party whether its filmed or not. As it is at the moment, the fuckers have it all their way with any news report emphasising the illegality of the party, the supposed damage to the environment, the availability of drugs, etc. etc. Under BBC policy, Louise would have to show things from our point of view (which she claims she wants to do anyway).
Not being naive, but I think more exposure might help blow some myths that middle England believe about the party scene out of the water, i.e. that we’re an army of drug-addled degenerate criminals just waiting for the opportunity to take over their land and destroy their property, ravishing their daughters along the way (OK, the drug-addled degenerate bit might be true – speaking for myself – but the rest is bollocks). Depending on the scope of her project, Louise might be better off seeking permission to use footage filmed by partygoers themselves. Better yet, take a look at stuff like Network23’s ‘World Traveller Adventures’ dvd to show what a positive impact soundsystems have had outside the UK since the CJA (I’m thinking of the Desert Storm mission to Sarejevo in particular) – a bit dated, but still relevant.
Having said all that, I certainly wouldn’t want my face appearing on any program like this. Happened to me once before when I fell down the K-hole at a party in near Hereford a couple of years back and woke up with a fucking police chopper (and camera) hovering right above me – my parents saw me all over the fucking news and weren’t too impressed. Don’t think it would have done me any favours if I’d given an interview in that state!!
in the end though she didn’t use the rave idea (it was going to be only 5 minutes in a 28 min programme anyway, and it seemed she (rightly) decided it was too much hassle for both her and the ravers to carry on.
I understand what you say, but much of the media are inherently hostile to unlicensed raves and its dangerous playing the spin game unless you have the same amount of power and resources.
The problem is also that she was a freelancer on a short term contract, and its very easy for those with more power to lean on people like her as she’s always fighting for new work and jobs without a permanent job she needs to please her bosses (who may not be as sympathetic as she wanted to be).
The other bigger problem is the mainstream media is extremely negative.
Lets say for instance that there was a change of heart and World Traveller Adventures was TX’d on channel 5 in peak viewing time despite a flood of complaints to C5 duty office and Ofcom about “encouraging illegal behaviour” from the Daily Mail lobby.
Now as you say that film is rather old. Allegedly, a number of people featured on it since become addicted to class A drugs, and aren’t doing much postive nowadays. A rival TV channel like ITV or C4 – would simply find these people, expose them, and pay their former friends to take part in a hatchet job programme…..
OTOH do I think there could be a media outlet for something like a ravers version of “channel U” (the low budget grime channel)- not rave footage for legal reasons but music videos, animations, short films and other stuff from people on the scene – a bit like a pirate station on the telly.. Afrter all if the grime scene is being allowed airtime (and it is the most dysfunctional form of urban music I have ever come across), why shouldn’t more positive forms of rave culture get media exposure?
Quality idea – I hope someone with a bit more motivation/influence than me picks up on it. At the very least, it would stick it to cunts like Rupert Murdoch who seem intent on instituting some sort of Daily Mail-esque hegemony throughout our media (it is OURS, after all!).
Didn’t know about the ‘downfall’ of the Network23 crew, but hardly surprising given the state of some of them on the video!
its the technology which should be swinging it our way – particularly fast computers which can do video editing, streaming media, broadband internet and the convergence of television and computers.
N23 as a whole still exists AFAIK and is still doing good stuff – it would be stronger than a few people going down and I thought the idea was that anyone who had something to contribute to join or leave as they pleased.
It was only a few individuals from the old spiral days who are alleged to have gone down the wrong tracks; and that news only comes from rumours spread on other messageboards; but thats still something a researcher with malice in their mind could investigate further. there are plenty of angry, bitter people on the urban music scene who can be convinced to stich up former friends it seems…
but that is one big thing holding us back and making it difficult to show the postive site ; the legacy of uncontrolled hedonism leading to dysfunctional behaviour and/or addiction. when you look on our drugs forum and see that over a quarter of people have tried heroin and the harrowing stories of addiction, you can see where the antis get a lot of their arguments from…
I think it will be very difficult 2 portray this sub-culture without shocking people…I mean I was shocked when i went 2 my first party in a warehouse,m everyone a ghostly white colour snorting k or coke desperately to stay awake just for a bit longer, a couple of bloke still dancing full on like psychos and I saw kids younger than me, school kids, bowling round with wide angry eyes with something to prove…just a normal party but to outsiders it would be shocking but no doubt interesting the thing is Ive learnt like everyone that theyre only like that on the outside…That night I left my mobile phone in the toilet and would u believe I got it returned to me in the post the very next week! Journalists would have to get involved properly to understand but it wouldn’t work to just go in there with a load of cameras…Anyway one of things that makes it so much fun is the secrecy, the underground element and the danger. Sometimes you can just imagine someone pullin out a knife on u cause the thought is so conceivable it adds to it…but imagine iof everyone went to parties and listened to acid techno it just wouldnt be the same….
appart from that, exactly the same…
anyone know where i can get a copy of world traveller adventures? worth the money? the trailers definately look good
They’re on Amazon I think and I personally found them very worthwhile but a bit dated!
even if the rave scene has progressed’, its still the same bastards (or worse ones) running the media ! they’d still shoot us down
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