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      i didn’t read asll, but they are saying “hey believe the pink pills may have contained a double dose of MDMA”…
      honestly, i don’t think that even a double dose are the reason off her unlucky death, or maybe the reason was the doubble dose, but it’s her genetic system who bring her life to the fatal ending.

      my cousin just died a6 weeks ago at 49 and was sportive, never smoked, wasn’t drinking, maybe an red wine glass sometimes in a restaurant and had a life every person concerned about health is doing. But it seems he died from an heart attack (even its not clear).

      If he would have taken mdma , they would have conclued to the same death reason like the girl. she could also have been of an rare death fatality as my cousin, and the mdma is the only reason they found to explain her fatality. if 1 person only died with that sort of pill, itz is not a suffisiant reason to say its the cause. if they would be many death, then the cause could be the pills.

      if pills are made the way that taking a double dose is dangerous, that would be totally CRAZY

      It’s a terrible tragedy for the poor girl and her family, and I’m not a medical specialist but wonder if the family history of epilepsy has something to do with it, if she had a gene hidden or something could that have interacted negatively, if she had say one or two pills? I read about that history in another news report somewhere about the epilepsy, then again of course it may have nothing to do with that, just a thought cos nobody else seems to have been affected.

      It’s an idea mate but I’m gonna guess with epilepsy being as common as it is, would have caused this sort of thing more often. Having said that, idk what meds she used for epilepsy which may have caused a fatal interaction to occur.

      Allergic reaction is certainly possible, I imagine the majority of people are allergic to something or other to varying degrees and will most likely never be bothered by it and in some cases even know about it.

      To be honest I have no clue about MDMAs human toxicity. No clue how much MDMA it would take to kill an average person and I’m gonna guess that’s partly down to it not being toxic enough to have killed that many people outright, without other drugs being involved, if the other drugs weren’t actually responsible for the death anyway.

      I’d but toxicity of MDMA with no other interactions or poly-drug use at a $$$ prohibitive amount meaning you’d have to take more than most people could afford or would choose to spend on one night and even then you’d have to take it in a ballast

      Erowid thinks 350mg/kg for rats orally as an LD 50, so thats 35 grams for a 100kg man if we just extrapolate cross species.

      @Shakyamuni 982676 wrote:

      Erowid thinks 350mg/kg for rats orally as an LD 50, so thats 35 grams for a 100kg man if we just extrapolate cross species.

      That is a lot of VERY pure MDMA as I’m guessing the MDMA used in that rat study was as close to pharm grade as could be attained without ridiculous time/expense and far purer than anything likely to be found on the street.

      I’ve no actual recollection of anyone doing too much MDMA, either in pills or powder. I’ve seen many people be reckless and stupid with it (myself included), but never seen even close to a problem. I think the most likely problem encountered is seratonin syndrome and unless that’s at an extreme level is usually missed by doctors as, really, it’s npot that bad. Nowhere near as bad as having far too much of any drink containing alcohol which I know people who have died from and also even at school at least 3 people had their stomachs pumped because alcohol is a serious, deadly toxin.

      @tryptameanie 982678 wrote:

      That is a lot of VERY pure MDMA as I’m guessing the MDMA used in that rat study was as close to pharm grade as could be attained without ridiculous time/expense and far purer than anything likely to be found on the street.

      I’ve no actual recollection of anyone doing too much MDMA, either in pills or powder. I’ve seen many people be reckless and stupid with it (myself included), but never seen even close to a problem. I think the most likely problem encountered is seratonin syndrome and unless that’s at an extreme level is usually missed by doctors as, really, it’s npot that bad. Nowhere near as bad as having far too much of any drink containing alcohol which I know people who have died from and also even at school at least 3 people had their stomachs pumped because alcohol is a serious, deadly toxin.

      Serotonin Syndrome, a heart arrhythmia, hyperthermia, dehydration, over-hydrating would all be much more likely to kill with MDMA than an honest to god overdose.

      @iliesse 982663 wrote:

      i didn’t read asll, but they are saying “hey believe the pink pills may have contained a double dose of MDMA”…
      honestly, i don’t think that even a double dose are the reason off her unlucky death, or maybe the reason was the doubble dose, but it’s her genetic system who bring her life to the fatal ending.

      these pills have since been tested to contain a very strong dose of MDMA (although the pictures I’ve seen do appear to have a breakline along the two halves of the mastercard logo) – although not currently on the warning list of extra strong pills from Trimbos NL (I’ve just checked). The similarly strong ADE-pills which are featured on there (as well as various others) were both unusually shaped and lacked any useful breaklines.

      That said the news reports do also mention two of her siblings died suddenly at very early age; another news report mentions the young woman who overdosed had been caring for a disabled brother. This does suggest her family may have a medical history which might have made the use of stimulants more risky for her – unfortunately there is very little research done into these “indirect” risks.

      Much more worrying IMO is her full name and therefore the info on her family was made available so quickly when she was only 17 – this is on the verge of what EU privacy/human rights laws tolerate; the UK has some exemptions to these although they are supposed to act as a deterrent to young criminals, not to shame victims).

      At the same time a 17 year old using a prepaid mobile phone in the UK cannot even get to many sites like this without using (albeit basic) “hacker” techniques on the device or searching for content in languages other than English – the networks now have built in “family friendly” censorship.

      Unfortunately even kids smart enough to have been taught French or German in high school are now still unlikely to find harm reduction info as the organisations over there run up against the same level of opposition and censorship and hit the “under 18s” blocks within their countries. I would not know myself much about the drugs scene in DE, CH, FR etc (even compared to NL and I learned FR and DE languages far earlier in life) were it not for illiesse and others in previous years sharing their own personal experiences.

      @Shakyamuni 982698 wrote:

      Serotonin Syndrome, a heart arrhythmia, hyperthermia, dehydration, over-hydrating would all be much more likely to kill with MDMA than an honest to god overdose.

      Yeah, MDMA is very hard to overdose on. Maybe dying of old age is more likely.

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