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THE death of Arlesey teenager Sophie Ksher was an accident, a coroner has ruled.
The inquest was held into the death of Sophie, 16, who died after falling at a rave in High Wycombe in February.
Sophie had travelled 70 miles to the rave with her 29-year-old boyfriend Andrew Lester.
She had gone to live with Mr Lester the previous August against her parents’ wishes and despite their best attempts to bring her home.
Coroner Nicholas Gardiner heard last Thursday how Sophie had fallen to the concrete floor during the rave at around 2.30pm on Sunday, February 1 and hit her head.
She was carried to an office where she started convulsing. An ambulance was called and Sophie was taken to Wycombe General Hospital.
She was later transferred to John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford where she slipped into a coma and died five days later.
Sophie was later found to have consumed ecstasy, cannabis and amphetamines.
Recording a verdict of accidental death, Mr Gardiner said: “It’s very obvious to me that she had consumed ecstasy and possibly other drugs.
“I’m satisfied that it’s very likely that she wouldn’t have had the fit had she not.”
But he also slammed the use of the phrase “recreational drugs” used by Det Sgt Russ Murden of Thames Valley Police as he gave evidence of the police investigation.
Mr Gardiner said: “I dislike that expression intensely. There is nothing recreational about taking drugs that might kill you.
“The only advice I can offer is don’t take drugs.”
Mr Lester failed to turn up to give evidence.
Verdict: Accidental death.
n Sophie’s family did not attend the inquest because they claim that they were not informed of the date by police.
They have since stated they would have liked to attend to try to answer some of the many questions they have over Sophie’s death.
A Thames Valley Police spokesman said: “Thames Valley Police contacted the Ksher family in writing and on the telephone four weeks ago that the inquest would be taking place.
“If the family have any concerns surrounding the way in which they have been informed of developments they should contact the Oxford coroner’s officer.
People become rally drivers and drive fast “recreationally”; they also do sports for recreation and sometimes kill themselves carrying out these activities.
People also go to the pub for recreation, end up in fights and get stabbed or shot. Is the coroner gonna warn people off doing all these activities as well? (Actually probably yes -these nanny types would rather you stayed at home and did fuck all).
You’d die anyway; just a bit more slowly through the cumulative effects of clogged arteries due to sitting on your arse looking at telly all the time.
Incidentally this incident is being mentioned by Bedfordshire Police on their S63 letter (they’re all doing printed ones now!) as one of the “why you shouldn’t go to raves” reason
It is always a tragedy when life is lost and this news saddens me.
However, people do seek new ways to spend their ‘recreation’ time. A friend of mine despises all drug use and is a keen surfer and snorkeler / diver (as well as being a hobby he makes living teaching both). He has had several operations to remove bone that has grown over his inner ear. He has now been told that if he goes in the sea ever again he will risk losing his hearing forever.
At the third big rave I ever went to (in the early 90’s) a girl I had been chatting to suddenly collapsed in front of me and her body heammoraged. She died on the dance floor by my feet due to a rare allergic reaction (to what is still inclear).
I have lost friends to diving, sharks, alcohol, cars, motorbikes, childbirth, kite surfing, AIDS, electrocution, drowning and work (you might think I’m hexed and want to avoid me now).
Thousands of people die every year at the hands of motorists and thousands more suffer ill-health from traffic / industrial pollution/accidents. I believe that less than 20 people have died as a direct result of taking clean E in the UK in the last 15 years.
The debate about what is ‘acceptable’ risk taking should end with the statement “it’s my choice”. Choices should be informed and those choices must be reached through information that is objective, free and available to all.
cops and authorities say we should use “proper channels” and get licensed, with finish times, bouncers, etc to avoid such tragedies…
The mother of a woman who died after being shot in High Wycombe in the early hours of Saturday will join detectives in a fresh appeal for witnesses tomorrow.
Margaret Derby, of Cleethorpes, Humberside, and Det Ch Insp Andy Taylor, leading the investigation, will be available to speak to press at Aylesbury Police Station, Wendover Road, Aylesbury, at 1.30pm.
Natasha Derby, aged 25, of Crest Road, High Wycombe, was shot inside the Multi-Racial Centre, St Mary’s Street, at around 2.30am, on Saturday, and passed away in hospital last night.
The centre had been booked for a reggae night and as the evening was drawing to a close it appears Natasha was shot on the dancefloor. There were at least 100 people inside at the time and detectives are appealing for anyone who was at the event to come forward.
People who were at the Multi-Racial Centre on the evening of the shooting or anyone who may have been near to the centre in the early hours of Saturday morning is urged to call Det Ch Insp Taylor via 0845 8 505 505. If you don’t want to speak to police and don’t want to leave your name call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
it seems the negativity of some bits of the urban music scene knows no bounds. What kind of psychos attend these events, who smuggle in a firearm and wait through the whole night to settle a score and take a life at the end of the night?
What happened in both cases is a tragedy – two young girls lost their lives in the same area.
But in the case of Sophie it was a tragic accident. It should not really have happened (other crews from the area had rejected that venue aas unsafe) but the shockwaves it sent through the party community have at least led to people realising that they have to be collectively responsible for health and safety to avoid these sort of tragedies.
Yet councils license events and they attract murderers. (and much as I actually like dancehall and reggae, I can’t help but think that the misogyny and violence in much of the lyrics does have an effect on people – music is after all a powerful way of sharing emotions.)
And even in licensed clubs there have been several fatal accidents due to unsafe structures; except in many cases management have made a commercial decision to delay repairs in order to minimise overhead spend and maximise net profits.
In perspective – the death of Ms Ksher has thankfully been the only such tragedy at a rave in that locality in 14 years – adn free parties have still not attracted a major “gangster” element who are prepared to use extreme violence [although trouble happens at London events it is still low-level] – the lack of “bling” and glamour compared to commercial events (which thrive on it) is undoubtedly a big factor.
If a young lady asked me which events were safer – I’d still happily suggest the free party over and above any commercial event…
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