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  • I’m about to move house, so I’ve been letting all the services know my change of adress etc.

    I have a BT phone line for my internet access and home phone. I let them know 14 days before the move so that things could happen smoothly. It turns out that the soonest I can have a phone line connected in my new home is 7 weeks after i contacted them.

    Not only that, but they want to charge me £75 for the priviledge. And on top of that, they will charge wanadoo £25 to move my broadband connection. Wanadoo pass on the charge to yours truly of course. I can’t get out of it either as I signed up to a 12 month contract… and I have to have a BT line to get service from wanadoo.

    So basically, I’m going to pay £100 to be without phone or internet for almost 2 months for the priviledge of staying a BT customer 😡

    I thought the idea of privitisation was to increase competition and stop monopolies? :confused:

    Is there a BT NTP (network termination point) in your new house? (the master phone socket which splits in two bits for extension wiring)
    [NB: the NTL ones are exactly the same bar corporate logo)

    if there is 7 weeks seems way too long, unless there are no spare pairs in the CPC box (green street box) or capacity at the local concentrator (the bits your phone line connects to)

    I’d put in a formal complaint over the delay and ask why the service transfer is taking so long, and say you will contact ofcom if it is not resolved. They probably won’t do the work any quicker but may drop the price, as the contract you have with them also binds them to provide you with a service in a timely manner or compensate you accordingly.

    If they do not have capacity at the local exchange then surely the contract is void as they cannot provide you with a service..

    The wider problem though is that market conditions have created a duopoly of fixed line providers, only BT or NTL do copper pairs to residential houses so its one or the other – I get the impression they carve up the market between them as well depending on what capacity is there

    In some areas they actually do not want new customers because it costs more to put in the new cables then they are worth, digging up roads and putting in poles is expensive now the work is subcontracted and also moaning nimbys complain about kit like poles, and street furniture (the boxes which contain the kit where your line goes to) being put in their area (ironically, probably using the telephone or internet!)

    BT can pass on the entire cost of providing the telephone line to the consumer, its from £35 to £150 depending on where they are but can even be more! I have seen reports of old grannies being quoted thousands (£3000+) for single phone line installs because they either live out in the sticks or their area has exhausted its cable capacity and BT are passing on the full cost of a multipair cable install..

    in all these cases BT have refused to back down and even told them to get a mobile or go to NTL!

    I’d still try making a formal complaint to see if you can either get the work brought forward or the price reduced…..

    BT’s code of practice with complaints contact details is here

    http://www.btplc.com/Thegroup/Regulatoryinformation/Codeofpractice/ConsumerCodeofPractice.htm

    unfortunately it does have a lot of get-out clauses with regard to “lack of network capacity” and other such stuff – and if they quote 7 weeks then they can claim that is all they can offer

    best you could probably get is some line rental refunds or a reduction in that install price but I still reckon its worth putting in the complaint at least, and going to Ofcom if you do not get a satisfactory resolution

    thanks for the info, GL

    Their reason for it taking so long is christmas…

    basically, because there’s a one day religious holiday nothing works :confused:

    I have tried to complain (by phone) and they’ve brought the date back by 5 days… so still a little over 6 weeks to connect me and still £100 (with the broadband costs).

    I hate feeling ripped off.

    I’d give BT a final warning you are going to escalate the complaint and then take it to Ofcom – particularly emphasising the extra problems caused by broadband, £75 still seems way too steep when competitors NTL charge only £35 for installing the NTP and broadband.

    Originally posted by General Lighting
    £75 still seems way too steep when competitors NTL charge only £35 for installing the NTP and broadband.

    it is way too steep but they don’t have any competitors in my case… to recieve broadband from wanadoo (and I’m tied into a contract) I have to have a BT line…

    even more of a case for ofcom to get involved;

    I once enquired about an extra BT voice line for my house (did not proceed due to unacceptable lead time and this wasn’t anywhere near holiday season!) but was quoted far less despite the BT NTP being missing and a known local problem with lack of capacity and old dropwires needing replacement (costs they sometimes try to pass on) – this was for what would have been a “new customer” install though…

    you could allege to ofcom they are adding more extra costs (over and above that passed on to wanadoo) because of broadband (after all, how do you know this is not the case?) – and ask for this to be investigated.

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