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July 25, 2006 at 8:30 am

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gv23 wrote:

I’m glad the media have finally woken up to the fact that Coldplay are to blame :weee:

lol plus found this in our local paper.maybe other local papers have been asked/told to post similar articles as an aid to police inteligence.
July 25, 2006 at 10:12 am

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Meltown wrote:

They quite often block the road as they dont want any more rigs turning up and getting in, and they are very scared of travellers moving on ti the site, as most rave sites would be ideal for them, and setting up home, which can cause the local police, council and public alot of distress

true to an extent and it does show the failure of self-regulation.

I personally think that weekend events should wind down by the Sunday afternoon as otherwise there is not enough time (or energy/people left!) to clear rubbish and it is often left behind – also there are obvious real dangers with people driving when sleep-deprived.

I can see what they are getting at as I’ve been at Ridgeway raves where more and more crews turn up including on Sunday and quite frankly it gets a bit out of hand…

but I’m not sure if rave sites are that ideal for travellers otherwise the travellers would have already been there! there’s a big difference between choosing a site to live on (particularly if people have kids or work) and one just for a bit of weekend fun. Also these days if travellers are associated with a rave site they are going to be monitored by cops for suspicion of dealing in class A drugs. (in Thames Valley armed police would raid the travellers sites fairly regularly)

IME there is a fair amount of tension developing between travellers and ravers (even if they both turn up at events) as well..
July 25, 2006 at 10:18 am

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“Most farmers will be more than happy to see people enjoying themselves but only providing it is done properly and legally with the proper facilities.”

well someone from NFU SW should talk to NFU East about this.

People here have tried to do things above board and by the proper channels but the farmers are over-worried about safety and also losing their subsidies – this is completely untrue as farms can be used for events for 21 days each year provided there is no environmental damage caused – who is spreading the misinformation?

I think a lot of ravers would be happy with a compromise solution and safer events; even the cops and councils realise this – its now up to the land managers to realise there is a chance for compromise.
July 25, 2006 at 10:31 am

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I have mentioned on another thread that theres a lot of gateways tracks ect filled with rubble and crap again down here,especially since that article in the journal:hopeless: So much for people enjoying themselves.Maybe someone should join forces with the NFU and hold county technivals where you can rave the night away then judge livestock and look at tractors and that in the morning
July 26, 2006 at 5:57 pm

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GoodDoG wrote:

I have mentioned on another thread that theres a lot of gateways tracks ect filled with rubble and crap again down here,especially since that article in the journal:hopeless: So much for people enjoying themselves.Maybe someone should join forces with the NFU and hold county technivals where you can rave the night away then judge livestock and look at tractors and that in the morning

get onto the countryside alliance crew, some pumpin farm trance comin from there.
July 26, 2006 at 7:51 pm

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From Accross the pond http://www.newtimesbpb.com/Issues/2006-03-02/news/feature.html
July 26, 2006 at 8:23 pm

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I hope that when they find it they tell me :biggreen:
July 26, 2006 at 8:32 pm

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Chemical needs wrote:

I hope that when they find it they tell me :biggreen:

and meraaaraaaraaa
July 27, 2006 at 9:35 am

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http://www.hendontimes.co.uk/display.var.821380.0.why_is_no_one_stopping_raves.php
July 27, 2006 at 2:41 pm

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GoodDoG wrote:

http://www.hendontimes.co.uk/display.var.821380.0.why_is_no_one_stopping_raves.php

i wonder what web site they threatened
July 27, 2006 at 8:41 pm

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Chemical needs wrote:

I hope that when they find it they tell me :biggreen:

:bounce_flraaa:bounce_g::bounce_flraaa:bounce_g:
July 28, 2006 at 9:51 pm

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it will soon be 20 years since the rave scene kicked off .we have heard that the illegals will be killed off time and time again .they haven,t and they never will .clubland has became stale very quickly and something has to take its place .the uk is still the hub of underground dance music and londs may that be the case .we fucking hold the power not the government and their foot soldiers the ob .its not the rigs that let us down its peoples big mouths and these sort of forums let us down and give the game away .it was a way better time before the internet got involved .fact .anyhows get out there and represent your local crews .its gonna be a long hot summer .bring it on :crazy_diz :crazy_diz
July 28, 2006 at 11:40 pm

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bumpkinbeans wrote:

it will soon be 20 years since the rave scene kicked off .we have heard that the illegals will be killed off time and time again .they haven,t and they never will .clubland has became stale very quickly and something has to take its place .the uk is still the hub of underground dance music and londs may that be the case .we fucking hold the power not the government and their foot soldiers the ob

i agree with that up to a point

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.its not the rigs that let us down its peoples big mouths and these sort of forums let us down and give the game away .it was a way better time before the internet got involved .fact

what ‘sort’ of forum is this, in your opinion?

i believe that this site helps to encourage a more positive, well thought out kind of party, it helps to spread the lessons learnt by people who have been involved in shaping this culture for longer than the 20 years you’re thinking of…

i also think this site has some impact when it comes to reducing harm from derg use with younger members

there’s loads fo information about government legislation and warning s to help people not to fall foul of the law, while still having a good time

this is my opionion
July 29, 2006 at 4:39 am

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stax wrote:

i wonder what web site they threatened

‘Why is no one stopping raves?’

A rave was allowed to continue on the Welsh Harp nature reserve in West Hendon last month because of confusion between Barnet and Brent councils over who is responsible for attending disturbances.

On June 10-11, an illegal rave was taking place at the site, which straddles the border between Barnet and Brent. A Brent resident called Barnet Council to report the rave, which was on the Barnet part of the land and was told by a council officer that because the caller was from Brent, they had to call Brent Council. The person then called Brent and a Brent warden called Barnet, but was unable to get in touch with anyone on the out-of-hours telephone number.

A report ahead of a Welsh Harp joint consultative committee meeting on Tuesday said: “Without the presence of a Barnet officer, Brent’s wardens were unable to take action in Barnet nor did they have jurisdiction to advise police to take action.”

A Barnet Council spokeswoman said: “The Brent report is incomplete. The out-of-hours service is manned and on that night we received two calls from Brent residents. One caller just wanted his call logged and the second was told to contact the Brent patrol.”

Judy Shepherd, of the West Hendon community forum, said: “It is just ridiculous, this situation has been going on for far too long and there are no patrols. Nobody cares about what happens on the Welsh Harp.” The issue of who will be called out in any future incidents is being discussed by the Welsh Harp joint consultative committee, a body made up of representatives from Barnet and Brent councils and 19 concerned organisations such as the Welsh Harp Sailing Group and Woolmead Residents Association.

At present there are no Barnet patrols taking place on the Welsh Harp. Brent council has a park warden on site during daylight hours and an officer and warden avaliable out of hours. Barnet officers are talking with the west Hendon Safer Neighbourhoods Team about future arrangements for patrolling.

In an effort to tackle the problem both boroughs’ legal teams have approached a web site through which raves are organised and threatened it with prosecution if any similar events are organised.
12:57pm Thursday 6th July 2006

By Neeta Dutta

http://www.hendontimes.co.uk/
July 29, 2006 at 9:42 am

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I agree that people are sometimes too lax talking on the Internet and other public places about parties (particularly when arguments are started over which rigs/crews are best) – but “back in the day” parties were still stopped due to old boys with scanners listening in to the analogue mobile phones, and nosey locals calling 999, or badly chosen venues that disrupted peoples livelihoods such as farming..

Complaints from locals are still the most common way parties are stopped.

The internet is merely a communications network – an extended form of the public telephone network and its up to the people who use it to be aware of the pros and cons of using it.
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