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March 30, 2007 at 10:33 am

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General Lighting

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Sandals wrote:

I quite like cold(p)lay.

There’s a hardcore breaks track with a sample from the Scientist in it

“Come up to meet you, tell you I’m sorry,
you don’t know how lovely you are
I had to find you, tell you I need you,
tell you I set you apart
Tell me your secrets, and ask me your questions,
let’s go back to the start.”

it crops up regularly on the DJ Nee mixes on our site….
April 10, 2007 at 11:03 pm

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Irie

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I hope one day they stop fighting against us and start realising that we should be recognised we don’t wanna be crammed in high street madness and nature is good for us, not just for the people who got loadsa money.
Drugs are everywhere, they need to open their eyes, as we need to start being good to ourselves and stop getting so messy so we can look out for each other. Music is good for ya, it keeps us fit and smiling. Would be good if we could all play and have a laugh, just gotta tidy up after ourselves too.
Give us a break and work it out together instead of stopping, judging and spending resources fighting us.
xxxxx
raaa :group_hug
April 11, 2007 at 10:04 am

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erial-Thrilla

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I don’t understand this crap.
I’ve been going to raves since before i was born. When my mum used to take me it was so much easyer for her and her friends. Police would keep tabs on them but let everyone stay and then the police would HELP us clean up afterwards. We didnt hurt anyone, we turned the music down if they asked us to which they hardly ever did. My mum and her friends co-operated with teh cops. Why cant it be like that again?

It frustraites me that i cant enjoy a rave like i did when i was younger. If they left us alone we would clean up, we would be respectful but they have to show the public some sign that all the money being put in the police department isnt going to waist.

News Flash people – it is a fucking waiste!
April 11, 2007 at 10:27 am

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$erial-Thrilla wrote:

I don’t understand this crap.
I’ve been going to raves since before i was born. When my mum used to take me it was so much easyer for her and her friends. Police would keep tabs on them but let everyone stay and then the police would HELP us clean up afterwards. We didnt hurt anyone, we turned the music down if they asked us to which they hardly ever did. My mum and her friends co-operated with teh cops. Why cant it be like that again?

It frustraites me that i cant enjoy a rave like i did when i was younger. If they left us alone we would clean up, we would be respectful but they have to show the public some sign that all the money being put in the police department isnt going to waist.

News Flash people – it is a fucking waiste!

Well now we have kiddies who like to fight the police, a lad i know (friendly with some of the rigs) was well chuffed that he was throwing bottles at the police, what a tosser :you_crazy. When the people realsie that fighting the police is not big and is not cleaver there should be less problems.

Yes i dislike the police but i have found that when you treat them with a little respect they usually treat you the same (got me off for loads of times).

Yeah shout abuse and throw things at the police, but when they batter your ass dont go running about screaming “police brutality!” They are just like anyone, rub em up the wrong way and they are going to want to get revenge! Well i know i would if i was in there shoes!

Keep the muppets out the way when the police arrive, send in a sober person or a good talker and it could end a lot more peacefull. When the police have been incited to storm the place and end up fighting with ravers it looks bad on the lot of us!

Maybe a roll of duct tape to tie up the knob heads before they cause trouble! :laugh_at:
April 11, 2007 at 11:54 am

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erial-Thrilla

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starlaugh wrote:

Keep the muppets out the way when the police arrive, send in a sober person or a good talker and it could end a lot more peacefull. When the police have been incited to storm the place and end up fighting with ravers it looks bad on the lot of us!

Maybe a roll of duct tape to tie up the knob heads before they cause trouble! :laugh_at:

It does end up looking bad on us. SO in teh end we wont get what we want [Being able to rave peacefuly] without being concidered a bunch of thugs.

In Wales on teh Sunday the police came down i was prettysober. Couple of pills a line of MD and some beer i was sober enough to talk rationaly. I tried to go over to teh police to talk to them but couldnt get thorugh because of teh huge croud throwing abuse at the cops. Then someone grabbed my arm, when i said ‘im going to talk to them’ the person said ‘its not worth it’ so i just went of to find my friends. Im starting to think i should have at least tried to talk calmly to them, i might have got somewhere, maybe they wouldnt have been so brutal.

I dont know. i’, just fed up with the reputation we have now. I remember when we were all known as ‘fun loving party people’ now were ‘holigans, ASBO’s thugs and violent’ im nothing like that. I just want to have fun.
April 11, 2007 at 12:06 pm

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$erial-Thrilla wrote:

afterwards. We didnt hurt anyone, we turned the music down if they asked us to which they hardly ever did. My mum and her friends co-operated with teh cops. Why cant it be like that again?

people in some areas started caning too much of the wrong drugs (or just too much of everything), burned out and got negative and started partying for the wrong reasons. Too many people now do it “to piss off the babylon” and some actually seem to enjoy creating mess and noise in the countryside 🙁
April 11, 2007 at 7:42 pm

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Irie

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General Lighting wrote:

people in some areas started caning too much of the wrong drugs (or just too much of everything), burned out and got negative and started partying for the wrong reasons. Too many people now do it “to piss off the babylon” and some actually seem to enjoy creating mess and noise in the countryside 🙁

Really? I am glad the parties i go to don’t have that attitude. I think your opinion above is negative GL but i can understand that maybe recent events have made you sad/mad.

Agreed people need to make so much more of an effort to place their rubbish in one area, what does it take to crush your can and place it with a pile of others and if you have glass bottles to put them aside too, doesn’t even take a minute and the mission can lead ya to all sorts. Some rigs seem to think louder wins them a willy waving contest, raaa it’s not the case even our hardened ears can only enjoy so much innit.

A wikkid and successful party is when you are able to walk away with a phat smile on your dial and memory to keep, with goods intact even if a little worse for wear but for no one else to know you were there.
April 11, 2007 at 7:53 pm

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Disco Tim

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Irie wrote:

Really? I am glad the parties i go to don’t have that attitude. I think your opinion above is negative GL but i can understand that maybe recent events have made you sad/mad.

Agreed people need to make so much more of an effort to place their rubbish in one area, what does it take to crush your can and place it with a pile of others and if you have glass bottles to put them aside too, doesn’t even take a minute and the mission can lead ya to all sorts. Some rigs seem to think louder wins them a willy waving contest, raaa it’s not the case even our hardened ears can only enjoy so much innit.

A wikkid and successful party is when you are able to walk away with a phat smile on your dial and memory to keep, with goods intact even if a little worse for wear but for no one else to know you were there.

:horay: :horay: :horay: :horay: :horay: Well said n thats all. i couldnt possiby add anymore to that. I think you just summed up every comment ive ever made about the scene. One big EXACTLY :flowers: :flowers:
April 11, 2007 at 8:40 pm

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Irie

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Disco Tim wrote:

:horay: :horay: :horay: :horay: :horay: Well said n thats all. i couldnt possiby add anymore to that. I think you just summed up every comment ive ever made about the scene. One big EXACTLY :flowers: :flowers:

:shy: Thanks x. Talk is cheap though innit, we all need to do more even if it’s get a little less messy or distract/have a quiet word with a destructive one, gotta start with ourselves and those close to us, we need to stand up to each other and protect what we got cause it really is something to be treasured and appreciated. I know i can’t shout it, but i really am grateful for what we got.

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April 11, 2007 at 9:50 pm

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Irie wrote:

Really? I am glad the parties i go to don’t have that attitude. I think your opinion above is negative GL but i can understand that maybe recent events have made you sad/mad.

its not just recent events, its about 4 years worth of stupidity which has slowly fucked up the scene in entire regions (not just counties), the SW and SE of England particularly, which is where I used to party most and where many of the crews at the weekend actually came from (hence 3 English forces being used to stop them).

I was saying right back in 2002/3 – “look after the areas or you will eventualy get locked down” (this was when the cops were virtually letting us all get away with it). Some people did listen but other crews didn’t, areas got caned and trashed and the clampdown happened. The same appears to have happened in Suffolk and Essex according to my new friends from these areas…

Its different in Norfolk – I’ve only just started partying in Eastern England over the last year and it is actually not too bad, its rather like what the SE was like at outdoor parties from 1998-2002.

OK the rigs might be smaller and some of the cabs (if not the drivers) look older than the ravers :laugh_at:but the crowds are friendlier and the bulk of people are currently there for the right reasons.

At that rave I went to where it turned out we were both at it was my “birthday weekend”, but it actually felt more like I was still a teenager doing it for the first time than someone who is 35 and has been partying virtually “since day one”.

But I do think that people shouldn’t be complacent in the East, there have been a few mistakes made there too and if you let your guard down its easy for things to go bad – the SE scene was just as good (and to be fair the Reading party this year was also like old days) – but we can learn from the mistakes rather than repeat them…
April 12, 2007 at 12:39 am

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globalloon

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General Lighting wrote:

its not just recent events, its about 4 years worth of stupidity which has slowly fucked up the scene in entire regions (not just counties), the SW and SE of England particularly

we must call different places ‘south west’ (i think of cornwall, devon, somerset, dorset as southwest, bristol, gloucester, wiltshire as west, bournemouth & southhampton as south) cos apart from Davidstow, mostly all i’ve seen is well delivered parties since the early 90’s (apart from the lack of a crapper a lot of the time :noway:) :satisfied

you should come down here some time (there was an eastern rig randomly turned up at the weekend… we only got closed down (peacefully, with no fights, damage , losses or press reports) in the end because after wales, the local force didn’t want all those ravers descending on this patch.. ie someone else’s problem
April 12, 2007 at 8:39 am

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globalloon wrote:

we must call different places ‘south west’ (i think of cornwall, devon, somerset, dorset as southwest, bristol, gloucester, wiltshire as west, bournemouth & southhampton as south) cos apart from Davidstow, mostly all i’ve seen is well delivered parties since the early 90’s (apart from the lack of a crapper a lot of the time :noway:) :satisfied

yep, I’m looking at the big “super Euro region” and you’re looking at the old historical definitions of England regions (they are very similar but slightly different and cause a lot of confusion!)

in the same way, I class Irie as also living in the East (along with SdZ, Sideways and a host of others here from Herts/Beds/Essex), when others would say these people would be in South East England

UK geography is some of the most complicated in the World (ironic given the size of our country :laugh_at:)

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you should come down here some time (there was an eastern rig randomly turned up at the weekend… we only got closed down (peacefully, with no fights, damage , losses or press reports) in the end because after wales, the local force didn’t want all those ravers descending on this patch.. ie someone else’s problem

If I’d known about this I would definitely have encouraged people to come along, sounds like the equivalent of a good Eastside party to me…
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