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  • TheCat77 wrote:
    The only reason they’re in Class A is because whichever government happens to be in power at the time want total control. They do this under a veil of protecting people from themselves (in itself pointless and futile) but the fact is they want to be able to control, quantify and measure every aspect of people’s lives.

    in the case of drugs its worse than that, its global control via the United Nations (and with the Yanks on the top). Its not just local laws but a UN decree that make drugs illegal..

    Even govts of countries that don’t agree with each other on politics / dominant religion seem to agree that recreational drugs use should be controlled, and its this mindset which needs to change as much as activism at a local level.

    That said, Britain’s classifications are flawed. Ketamine is now causing as many hospital admissions and more long term health problems than most of the other drugs, yet it remains class C. :you_crazy

    Found this while reading and thought it was an eloquent statement

    Quote:
    Mr Gillespie, whose 33-year-old son Scott died of a heroin overdose two years ago, said that drugs had to be taken out of the hands of criminals.

    “I can assure you there are very few things in life that concentrate the mind more than losing a child. So I had to think about this very, very thoroughly,” he said.
    “Until my son became involved in drugs, I have to confess I was one of those people who said ‘build more prisons, get more police and if they want to kill themselves, fine, chuck away the key’.

    “But I have had to think about it really hard. I eventually came to the conclusion that the only way that I could see would be to legalise all drugs. I’m convinced that he is dead because of the law.”
    Mr Gillespie said his son had been “stupid” to start using heroin in the first place and revealed that he had spent five weeks in prison because he had stolen to buy drugs.
    On his release from prison, his body could not take the normal dose of heroin and the fix he had taken was toxic.

    “I believe my son would be alive today if all drugs were legalised and controlled because he would have had no need to steal and would not have been in prison, the heroin would have been controlled and therefore not impure. Proper treatment would also have been available,” he said.

    its a fairly old story btw found here

    full article

    I’m in favour of the legalise/regulate route, not too happy about the fact the government would use it to raise taxes that have nothing to do with the treatment or supervisation of the issue and that Bayer & Bayer etc would be happily creaming of their profit but it’s bloody obvious the current model isn’t working in any country. But, a big issue is is this subject to be judged by common sense, or mashed up morality? I don’t know if anyone remembers the group of blokes years ago that got done for mutual S&M on private premises? Not my scene, but I don’t consider it to be my business when consenting adults to get up to what they want with a few veg and a packet of Stanley blades in their own homes as long as they aren’t causing me or mine any problems.

    If we went down that route, the legalise not kinky veg one, what do people think to whether there ought to be controls over what drugs could be done where? I’d go for each event/place to select its own rules same as should have happened with smoking….

    boothy wrote:
    Would alcohol be the favourite if it wasn’t legal and regulated d’ya reckon?

    I think it would definetly, if it went illegal so many people would still but it illegaly they would be forced to change the law back within a few months.

    edit. Not that its ever gonna happen 🙂

    The drug laws where past and are enforced so that the powers that be can maintain the monopoly of making money through the pharmacutical companies’

    Up until they wher passed you could seek self healing and enlightenment from of whatever your knowledge of plants and chemistry/biology aloud.

    If this was aloud to continue the pharmacutical companies that wher making all the anti-depressants/stimulants/sedatives and suplying the masses with them would have eventually crumbled because people have to pay extorsionate amounts for these substances wher they could be found cheeper in their natural forms’

    Also psychatric use of certain substances became prohibited because of the self same reason “Money”

    Parts of alternative medicine is ilegal in some countries because, simply put, it works.

    It puts doctors and intitutions out of business’

    You go to your doctor he treats you of how he was taught to do so’

    Psychologically we are all individuals’

    Pharmacutical companies see us as the same piece of meat that they can manipulate and turn into “Dollar”

    If you had the “Cure” for modern mans ills you wouldn’t be aloud to give it to the world as it would break monopoly’

    Simple slavery folks’

    Blessings’

    Motamba’ nangona’

    Hazza88 wrote:
    I think it would definetly, if it went illegal so many people would still but it illegaly they would be forced to change the law back within a few months.

    edit. Not that its ever gonna happen 🙂

    making your own beer and cider is so easy

    globalloon wrote:
    making your own beer and cider is so easy

    Good fun getting pissed on booze you have made your self, can be a little potent sometimes though :crazy:

    globalloon wrote:
    stats so far

    no one owning up to steroids yet, although their abuse is massive

    ecstacy is higher than coke now in 2nd fav
    dat cud be down to me tho
    n i cant beleive how far at da bottom speed is in 1st fav sumat like 1.4% of 565

    There’s nothing about Magic Mushrooms on there.

    And North Eest is spelt wrong. Like that.

    Otherwise, cool survey.

    interesting survey

    aim of drug laws is to stop drug dealing, use and repercussions?

    classifying A, B, C and associated punishments doesn’t seem to have stopped the supply or demand

    arguments for legalisation include rasing taxes, awareness, de-stigmatisation, less harmfull additives and taking the nasty drug barons out of the loop

    and putting it into the hands of the governments and pharmacutical companies?

    pure-ness of product and less bloody hypocrisy and demonisation i’m all for but are the drug barons really any worse than the powers that be?

    My thought is pretty straight forward. It is your body, you should have a right to say what you do to it, GRANTED you are not hurting anyone else in the process…but think about it how long did we allow people to hurt others will smoking until pubs/bars went smoke free…yeah so…

    I think legalizing drugs would take all the fun out of things! I for one am against it:wink:

    HemelRaver wrote:
    I think legalizing drugs would take all the fun out of things! I for one am against it:wink:

    yeah man im with you,
    me-hey man you alright?
    mate- yeah man cant complain really you out tonight?
    me -well but of course
    mate-wicked shall we get some pills make it a good-un?
    me- yeah sure ill just pop down costcutter now

    JonnyQuest wrote:
    yeah man im with you,
    me-hey man you alright?
    mate- yeah man cant complain really you out tonight?
    me -well but of course
    mate-wicked shall we get some pills make it a good-un?
    me- yeah sure ill just pop down costcutter now

    :laugh_at:
    am sure poundland or netto would sell the shite ones!

    UK drug laws are appalling and should be scraped.

    Reason 1. They do not work at all and never have.

    Reason 2. Personal freedom.

    Mr Politician telling me what I can and cannot smoke, eat, drink, snort or inject. On yer bike pal it’s my body I decide not you. Simple!

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