Drug prohibition is stupid it makes gangsters and dealers business and make the price of the drug high..so its bad for common fellas like us…legalize everything, a middle point its just the right point, for everyone, dont abuse…
Camilo, so right dude, prohibition sucks.
what about this?
the enforcement against possession of small amounts or even low level dealing is removed, provided no other crimes are committed whilst on drugs (i.e anti social behaviour / violence / dangerous driving or other behaviour on the roads/transport networks)
if dealers or users are caught committing dysfunctional or violent acts whilst under the influence or as part of their “business” they are busted for both the violent crime and the old penalty for the drugs.
but prison is only ever used for those who commit violence associated with drugs culture. Everyone else who exhibits problematic drug use patterns (say a spate of thefts to fund a habit, criminal damage on comedowns or repeated driving whilst under the influence) is given community sentences and rehab orders and/or profits made from drugs are confiscated but the funds ringfenced for the use of the NHS in the area where the offence occured.
A step like this could be a move towards more sensible legislation without going too much against the existing UN conventions, nor “caving in” to the behaviour of people who can’t self-regulate..
Done. Interesting.
I for one, find the current drug laws in the UK rediculous and intolerable
Many of these compounds, especially the psychedelics, have been used to the benefit of mankind for as long as history has been recorded and long before that and I do not believe we would be anywhere near where we are today, socially, and technologically, without them. Who the fuck, gave our ‘leaders’, the right to turn around, after all this time, and declare them dangerous and not to be used by anyone for any purpose? Why do they feel the need to have such control over something that should simply be a case of making an informed choice?
These chemicals have significant benefits and hold vast untold potential for humankind.
I believe a shamanic approach with regards to attitude towards these intoxicants could be a way forward. For this to work, any changes in drug laws would require to go hand in hand with dramatic changes in our education system.
I remember when I was in school, my entire class was sent on a trip to this ‘drugs workshop’, I remember being handed two small sweets which resembled skittles, one in each hand. The dick who handed them to me then asked, ” okay son, now which one of those two sweets is drugs?” I replied , “I don’t know,” to which he replied, “that’s the thing, it could be ANY!!, u just don’t know!!”
I shat myself, and I never bought a packet of skittles for years!
This is the bullshit that makes drug laws work, come on to fuck, is this the best information on drugs we have for our kids? Inevitably many kids will grow up to find out on their own that this in a complete pile of shit, but many don’t, and that’s part of the reason for this insane cultural attitude. Part of the reason people like us have to hide in the shadows.
At the very least, every single one of these drugs should be integrated into the existing medical system, more serious research needs to be done into the potentials and capabilities of these compounds, this data should be made available to the entire medical community and their use should be authorised for every health professional.
Misuse of drugs is the key issue here, things like DMT, Psilocybin & LSD have many medical uses and can give an individual great insights into their own mind and beyond, but excessing in these things for months on end can yield serious consequences, the sensible thing to do would be to educate people so that this is avoided, instead of fearmongering, lies, and legal consequences which can ruin a persons life. This is why education is fundamental to any realistic, workable resolution to this problem.
Unfortunately, the people who are in control, don’t seem to care about what would be best for our society, only what’s best for them. Rendering all our talk, fairly pointless.
If weed cured cancer it’s go straight to class A and possession would get you fed to the sharks.
not certain about this argument…the tax man would loooooovveee to legalise drugs!
I think the Goverment are keeping this ace up their sleeve one day they are going to need a massive diversion and this will give it to them ,just befor the story of Russian ICBM deployment/attack from space aliens/Masons rule the world, breaks out they will come with “look! a diversion, the legalisation of all drugs” in the hope that we will forget in about :insert major conspiracy theory here: being true.
heroin in it’s pure form and properly dosed is actualy alot less harmfull than most drugs iirc
forgot about that tune in your video avatar thing, quality. 🙂
really!!??
in what way…less addictive??
More in the way that it is less detrimental to your health, its an optiate in its pure form, Yes it will still destroy your life if you abuse it but its not filled with all the crap that dealers cut it with to make it go further..
Many of the problems associated with intravenous drug use come from the shit its cut with not the actual drug itself…
Alot of the stuff that its cut with blocks veins etc or is poisonous itself..
interesting article (from drink and drug news on ‘drug policy – the war on drugs’ )
Noam Chomsky, Interview in ‘The Chomsky Reader’
Across the many policy responses to drugs in society, the war on drugs ethos, its legislative instruments, and their enforcement has become a significant driver of drug harms. Through its mass criminalisation of users, its abdication of market control to unregulated criminal profiteers,
arrangements to control the supply of drugs covered by the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971) should be reviewed to determine whether any further cost-effective and
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[*]Danny Kushlick
The former head of the government’s UK anti-drug co-ordination unit (UKADCU), Julian Critchley, posted to BBC Home Affairs correspondent Mark Easton’s blog last week, The War on Drugs, calling for the legalisation of drugs. In his post he also reports how those he met during his time at the unit knew that criminalisation was causing more harm than the drugs themselves. (This comes as no surprise to anyone who has read the damning report from the prime minister’s strategy unit from 2003.)
Critchley says:
Critchley is to be congratulated for speaking out with such candour on the issue. I have met many former and current civil servants who are of the same opinion, but haven’t gone public. What Critchley makes absolutely clear is that many, if not most of those working in the drugs field are knowingly colluding with a regime that actively causes harm. Their silence is not based on ignorance but is tacit support for one of the great social policy disasters of the last 100 years.
Critchley, having retrained as a teacher, concludes with the following:
His final comment ought to send a shiver down the spine of every UK voter. If you voted in the last election, you probably voted for prohibition. You voted to gift hundreds of billions of pounds to organised crime each year, to undermine the social and economic development of producer countries such as Colombia, Afghanistan as well as transit countries such as Guinea Bissau and Jamaica. You voted to double the amount of acquisitive crime in the UK and to double the prison population with it. Your “X” contributed to misery and degradation for millions of the most marginalised people on earth. Unless we all do something to change it, you will probably vote for prohibition next time too.
In 2003 at a press conference, I asked the then drugs spokesperson at the Home Office, Bob Ainsworth MP, whether the government would support a cost benefit analysis of drug law enforcement. Quick as a flash his reply came back: “Why would we want to do that unless we were going to legalise drugs?” Does that sound like a man ignorant of where that audit trail would lead?
It is the candour of the likes of Critchley and others that exposes the hypocrisy of those failing to speak out and makes prohibition untenable in the long term. As Joseph McNamara, former police chief of Kansas City and San Jose put it: “The drug war cannot stand the light of day. It will collapse as quickly as the Vietnam war, as soon as people find out what’s really going on.” Tragically and despicably, the government’s commitment to populist posturing means that the collapse will come far too late for many.
In short:
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in what way…less addictive??
no still adictive .. just less physicaly harmfull .. enfact relativly safe .. alltho like acid fairy sais .. you will still fuck up your life most probably
Simple really, anything I do to self should be entirely my god-given right. No-one else should have the right to impact on my freedoms based on their (possible) faulty belief systems. When things change is when it impacts severely on others. If you cause emotional damage to others, then you’ve gone too far and need to sort yourself out (therapy and / or detox). Physical damage to people the same – along with something more punative. Any crime to others (theft and the likes) deserves criminal proceedings. Point is, if SWIM keeps his sh*t together – keeps perspective – and indulges ocassionally in recreational enjoyment, SWIM should be totally free to do so. But we know society is judgemental, hypocrytical… a case of ‘I’m right, you’re wrong and I’ll punish yo ass boy!’… so SWIM has to keep anything low-key amongst friends and others whom SWIM trusts. Peace.
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