Party Vibe

i tried valium and xanax a few times for trying sleeping, but i never felt any effect.The only medicament which put me in a state of sleep is midazolam (common named in switzerland “Dormicum”) which has replaced flunitrazepam (“Rohypnol”) which has
been banned here since end 2013 for the reason people was using this medicament for abusing women and raping them.

The NHS put extra security controls on any drug suspected in being used to facilitate sexual assault and/or robbery or blackmail that isn’t already controlled and have done so for over a decade.

In the early 2000s my younger sister went on a girls night out with her friends and some creep tried to spike one of her friends drinks. Luckily for them my sister then worked in the NHS hospital pharmacy; one of her friends was a paramedic and another was the CCTV operator for the Council and Thames Valley Police!

So the rest of the girls immediately knew what had happened; prevented anything worse occuring to the victim and were able to give usable evidence to the Police (who nicked the suspect offender and cancelled the license of the bar where it happened; they went out of business). Today in the region I live in there are regular warnings and checks against drink spiking, regular monitoring of all young people and all their night time activities so incidents like this (which are now uncommon) are quickly identified and dealt with.

@Requiem 600066 wrote:

They recently developed a nail polish that would allegedly detect the presence of this and similar dugs but I imagine that’s quite a way from markt even if it is genuinely able to do what it does.

I remember reading fairly recently Suffolk Constabulary and the NTEU (Night Time Economy Unit) were trialling it. AFAIK it does work; but bear in mind the Police (especially in coastal/border areas) are much more gender diverse than folk may realise, and employ a lot of very intelligent female detectives and CI staff. The amount it costs it may not be as effective as using the same cash to other protective measures against sexual violence; especially when public sector budgets are stressed.

They also do not want to end up in the tabloid press across Europe exposed for spending taxpayers money not just “subsidising binge drinking culture” handing out a tool that could well be diverted by women age (35-55) (and some males too! ) to check if NPS benzos or other diverted ones from foreign lands are good or not…I also have a feeling that unless the cops also handed out other drugs testing kits doing this might break some EU equality/diversity laws or require each individual country to get an exemption from them; which pushes up the costs yet more, divides society and increases the fear of crime.

This kind of crime against strangers is thankfully becoming rarer anyway; the pharm companies may well also put bitter tasting stuff in the stronger benzos (which also discourages ODs/suicide attempts or deliberate poisioning such as in domestic violence).

Since 20 years we have CCTV, high profile policing and better training of venue security staff across Northern Europe; and multi agency co-operation to discourage young people from becoming perpetrators or victims.

there was also around the same time some alcopops which were blue / green started being sold again. There was some other 1980s drink before that the same colour.

This went against accepted European practice (which was taught to all teenagers irrespective of gender since the 1980s) that it is not a good idea to drink any “sweet alcohol” that colour (or the local colour of cheap antifreeze for your country).

(Di)ethylene glycol is way cheaper than alcohol, untaxed and this stuff was regularly put into booze until half of Europe (especially the German speaking bit of it) was slowly poisoned. After 1985 it was accepted that adding it to the drink for older people was verboten but the stuff still found its way into alcoholic drinks aimed at the youth market well into the 2000s. It is still a hazard in cheap consumer products (including supposedly legitimate pharms) think it still sometimes turns up in dodgy booze seized by trading standards across EU. Taking good quality benzos might well be safer than any of this stuff.

1985 diethylene glycol wine scandal – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@Requiem 599727 wrote:

Yeah rohypnol has been used here for the same reason but not sure it’s been replaced. Midazolam is not one I’ve tried but heard it was incredibly strong.

yes indeed, it’s really strong (I just saw that the common name in English for Dormicum is Hypnovel) and it’s shocking how doctors in Switzerland are prescribing them unconsciously to any heroin addicted simultaneously with methadon for heavy sleeping problems.

2 pill of 15mg are sold 20 swiss frank on the market which represent the same price as 1 gram Heroin. (A 30 pills box sold by the drugstore for less than 30 Frank are sold for 600 Frank in the street, cuz this hypnotic Benzo is very addictiv)

I have heard that somedays in the streets, there are people waiting hours until a dealer comes and it happens that the price for the last pill the dealer has raise to 40 frank.

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@iliesse 600224 wrote:

yes indeed, it’s really strong (I just saw that the common name in English for Dormicum is Hypnovel) and it’s shocking how doctors in Switzerland are prescribing them unconsciously to any heroin addicted simultaneously with methadon for heavy sleeping problems.

2 pill of 15mg are sold 20 swiss frank on the market which represent the same price as 1 gram Heroin. (A 30 pills box sold by the drugstore for less than 30 Frank are sold for 600 Frank in the street, cuz this hypnotic Benzo is very addictiv)

I have heard that somedays in the streets, there are people waiting hours until a dealer comes and it happens that the price for the last pill the dealer has raise to 40 frank.

the two pills would be about €19 or £14; which is a lot for two pills of any divert pharmed even on a black market; it is almost as much as MDMA pills cost in UK in the 1990s (but those were 100% illegal)

Doesn’t look like good practice as far as medical ethics are concerned; in the UK this level of drugs would only be prescribed to someone who is very frail/elderly and inside a residential home and even then its all locked down and every last pill / dose counted.

@General Lighting 600236 wrote:

the two pills would be about €19 or £14; which is a lot for two pills of any divert pharmed even on a black market; it is almost as much as MDMA pills cost in UK in the 1990s (but those were 100% illegal)

Doesn’t look like good practice as far as medical ethics are concerned; in the UK this level of drugs would only be prescribed to someone who is very frail/elderly and inside a residential home and even then its all locked down and every last pill / dose counted.

when i look in the city where i actually live (have to smile, cuz its to big to be called village with nearly 9’000 inhabitants, but even far away from the population of a city)

Living in a such little place makes u easy realize the amount of young people addicted to heroin. when i was 18 years old, 1 gram was 500 swiss frank. But during the yougoslavia war, switzerland has welcomed over 100’000 albanian kosovar refugees with the consequences of the setting-up of the albania mafia in our country to buy weapons with the money of the heroin trade. this is the reason which made the price of Heroin droped to 20-24 frank for 1 gram. (Heroin is sold here only in 5 gramms grips for 100 – 120 frank for a 5 gramm in a grip) which makes that so many young people gets rapidely addicted to heroin.

All this long Roman to explain that these pills of Hypnovel which can be be sniffed , smoked , or injected are mixed with heroin which gives the people the impression that they feel heroin like the first times cuz this midazolam effect is acting as fast as heroin.

I have seen the charachters totally changed of friends which were taking heroin since years, begun to take these midazolam in less than a year much more than with heroin, the addiction of that drug is worse than opiates.

Normally they should only be used for anesthesia or very specificate insomnia problems. Instead, doctors are prescribing them irresponsabelly to a lot of heroin adicted which are also receiving methadon ending sometimes with 2 boxes of 30 pills per week, which means, nearly 9 pill per day.