I find comedowns worse after Ive had a few hours sleep though. But before I sleep, I usually have a smoke. Sorts me out 🙂
Ive never thought to try Valium for a comedown before though.
i have known a few people that have done that on a pill come down .. and they recon its well good .. i only tryed it on a coke come down .. and boy did it fucking help … only problem is i know people who have done thae same thing with smack and got hooked on it as a result .. if you do pills all the time .. then its not an easy way out of come downs as you will end up getting hooked on benzoes wich is far worse than a pill come down imo …
my dad was addicted to benzos (and they may have done his kidneys in) and thats whats always put me off doing them
not just the risk of a chronic illness but the feeling I would be “turning into my Dad”
by taking a comedown drug you are substituting one addiction for another
I stopped having bad comedowns after 2002 (although I didn’t exactly become a goody two shoes :wink:) – all I needed to do was pace myself properly, not get hammered every weekend and ensure other stuff in my life (such as work, etc) was as good as it could be and not a cause of further stress
think thats pretty important, ive been blowing most of my money on chang recently and its a shit feeling not being able to sleep with the added worry of knowing your gonna have a shit month finacially. :hopeless:
ive never tried valium or xanax but have used temazepam recently and that lets me sleep within half an hour with a 20mg dose no matter how much im still buzzing.
ive never tried valium or xanax but have used temazepam recently and that lets me sleep within half an hour with a 20mg dose no matter how much im still buzzing.
20mg is alot for most people … 5or10mg should do the trick … but if that dont work .. take more i guess lol:laugh_at:
Give me Valis any day of the week. I think xanax is banned in UK, connected with lots of suicides.
all of the above no medals 4 bravery when it comes to comin down but not together mind u
Erm Guys,
Don’t forget body mass – bigger and fatter the person the more they probebly would need.
If I was a first time user of valium i’d take 20mg for a comedown.
Xanax is supposed to be 5x’s stronger and it acts quicker but it doesn’t last as long (the half life is a lot shorter) and just if not as more addictive than vallies.
Temmazzies are way down the list for addiction. They are habbit forming but nowhere near as bad as the other two which are benzos. I think tamazepam are classed as a Hypnotic – however, I dont get much off the tammies now. I do have a stash off 2 of these “Types” of drugs for “emergency” uses somewhere.
/me winks at the room
Has anyone tried 30mg Temazepams? :laugh_at: They are much better than expected
Oh, yes back onto subject
Xanax if its a 2.0mg tab take one, perhaps half. if its a 1mg tab take one, perhaps 2, if its a (I think 0.25 or 0.5mg) then well, what can I say?
Also let me know if you get what they call “GATOR BARS” – YUMMY!!
OH, ANY ABSOLUTELY NO ALCOHOL – I MEAN IT. NO ALOCOHOL. BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING YOU IN A COMA – GOT IT?
PLUR
THE MEDICAL ADVICE YOU HAVE JUST READ IS AN OPINION FROM SOMEONE WHO USES PRESCRIPTION DRUGS TO GET HIGH/LOW. THIS HAS NOT COME FROM A PRACTICTIONER OR QUALIFIED EXPERT. IF YOU ARE PRESCRIBED THESE DRUGS, THEY CAN BE HABIT FORMING. PLEASE TAKE AS DIRECTED AS PER YOUR PSHYSISIAN.
how dangerous on a scale of 1-10 is drinking and taking vallies/temazzies etc? cause, and im not trying to show off or whatever but ive took loads of each when ive been properly pissed after a night/morning out. probably like 100mg+ is the most, not all at once but spread out a bit, but ive not died yet, maybe ive just been v.lucky. i know they say you can go into a coma, but people can also have a heart attack from one line of coke, just wondering what the actual truth is cause obvious;y the safty labels have got to say stuff like that to cover their own back…
Haha, hairy fanny!
did you just look down and type what you saw? :laugh_at:
Mixing alcohol with benzos such as vallium would only exacerbate the situation. The alcohol would make the benzo appear to be stronger. However, the risk is quite low say 4/10. Obviously, if you vomit whilst asleep then your putting yourself at more risk.
Mixed with other drugs such as heroin this is a scale of 9/10 for danger due to overdose and tolerance.
See, you can never actually die from a benzo overdose – its when you mix benzos with other substances that actually increase the chances of getting a free taxi to hospital.
Remember the old rule when your at a party? Tell your friends what drugs you have taken and how much to drink you have had and if anything happens to you then someone can tell the ambulance?
And if no-one has heard of that before then the scene has changed for the worse.
😥
careful with mixing downers, especially booze. i know of someone who died in his sleep from mixing/taking loads, i’ve heard it was xanax+ket+valium+booze.
Dependence At low doses within the therapeutic range, tolerance does not develop to any great extent and only small increases in doses are reported over time. But among street users who are using large amounts, tolerance to the sedative effects (but not to the calming effects) develops rapidly and doses escalate.
Dependence can also develop quickly and some people report withdrawal symptoms after only four weeks’ use at therapeutic (low) doses. People vary in the severity of symptoms they experience. Among long-term and heavy users, panic attacks, feelings of unreality, distortion of perception, sweating, restlessness and tremor are common.
Sudden withdrawal from benzodiazepines is dangerous as seizures can occur. Therefore withdrawal from the drug should be gradual and conducted under medical supervision. Withdrawal from benzodiazepines can be distressing because symptoms often last for many months. Long-term use The effects of long-term use of benzodiazepines include mental confusion, memory loss, depression, aggressive behaviour and loss of physical coordination.
Injecting with dirty or used needles can cause serious infections like hepatitis B, blood poisoning and HIV infection. Injecting crushed tablets or jelly (from green capsules) can cause serious circulation problems and in some cases, loss of limbs. Overdose risk Death from overdose is rare with this group of drugs because large doses are needed but the risk increases if benzodiazepines are mixed with other “downers” like opiates, barbiturates or alcohol.
the risk is depression of breathing, so using other ‘ depressants’ like alcohol increase the risk of OD
heroin helps with the comedown
as far as i no temmazzies are still benzos and are still habbit forming same as nitrazepam,lorazepam,lormatazepam,flunitrazepam apart from these are all classed as tranquelizers were as valium (diazepam) are sedatives which as e_babes says wont knock you straight out but will take care of the worst of come downs,tho in my experiance i have seen people just ko on 10mg of valium so it depends on who you are i supose.
also in my experiance i find valium go damn nice with uppers you get a floaty happy buzz of the vallies an a nice rush of the mdma.
Not something to get into to much tho as gl said they will give you 1 nasty habit!
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