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      A Nation Of Suspects?

      Do you think your details should be stored on the national DNA database? That is the question being put to the public.
      A consultation has been launched on whether laws allowing police to take, store and analyse DNA from suspects, witnesses and victims should be revised.
      The Nuffield Council on Bioethics says that in England and Wales, police have powers, “unrivalled internationally”, to take DNA from an arrested person without consent.
      His or her DNA profile is stored on the National DNA Database indefinitely, irrespective of whether or not charges are brought.
      “We want to hear the public’s views on whether storing the DNA profiles of victims and suspects who are later not charged, or acquitted, is justified by the need to fight crime,” said Professor Bob Hepple QC, chairman of the Council.
      The Council will examine whether it would be fairer to include everyone on the database, a process that Prof Hepple said would take a couple of generations to complete and involve enormous costs.
      He said this raised the issue of whether people wanted “to become instead of a nation of citizens, a nation of suspects?”
      The UK’s National DNA Database was set up in 1995 and is the largest per capita in the world, with profiles of more than three million people.
      In Scotland, those who are not charged, or are acquitted, may have their samples removed.
      Meanwhile, The Guardian claims that millions of personal medical records are to be uploaded to a central database, regardless of patients’ wishes.
      It says that details of mental illnesses, abortions, pregnancy, HIV status, drug-taking or alcoholism may also be included, while there are no laws to prevent DNA details from being added.
      A Guardian inquiry found a lack of safeguards against access to the records once they have been uploaded.
      The move is part of the Government’s plans to computerise the entire health service.

      Should we all have our data in a national DNA bank ?

      Why ?

      Why not ?

      cops have my DNA anyway, every time you get arrested in Britain they take it. incidentally it only gives a trace to your family group rather than an individual and it is is a complex and expensive process to check for DNA samples that can provide evidence for use in Court.

      Too many people get the wrong idea from movies and TV that cops can track individuals down instantly from DNA.

      The powers of the cops as they stand are sufficient and do not need any further enhancement.

      I’m more worried that the govt will fuck up the NHS database project (which isn’t that bad an idea TBH) by trying to add DNA data to it (a lot of data which will make the technical side of the project a nightmare if you add this on at a late stage).

      If we all want state-provided “free” healthcare we have to accept a certain amount of state monitoring – yes there should be privacy safeguards but at the same time medical professionals need to know a patients medical history; if someone is not prepared to give an honest account of their medical history on there then perhaps they not be given NHS treatment!

      How would you stop them or their relatives trying to sue if their lack of info had led to a severe drug interaction and made their condition worse?

      Also it is true that NHS patients are used as guinea-pigs and data sources to track trends in diseases and treatment (although data is usually anonymised for statistical purposes)

      But this is a known and accepted part of healthcare worldwide – every country has teaching hospitals for this purpose… There are countries where people have to pay the full private rate for healthcare and still have no choice over who their data is shared with…






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