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  • Apparently 2013 for Amsterdam. Other regions (mostly the ones nearer DE border) are introducing it in May this year.

    Unfortunately in NL the political change currently happened the other way round (it seems no coincidence that where the wietpas is being introduced is where Geert Wilders party and other right wing parties won the most seats), although their complicated election system and diversity of political parties and views means that there is not a consensus over ending gedoogbeleid. Nor are the gemeenschaps (councils) and those in charge of them stupid and they are aware that drugs tourism and wider tourism for events associated with nightlife are still business especially when you have already got decriminalised softdrugs and at least some of the businesses involved paying taxes.

    Hence why this law is being implemented in a somewhat half-arsed way for a country which by and large does not do things by halves, and it is not at all popular in areas like Amsterdam where wider communities begrudingly endure nightlife and drugs for the tax revenues (BTW this is what gedoogbeleid actually is, it is not the same as tolerance/acceptance)

    Already there have been a lot of clampdowns on Amsterdam since the start of the economic depression in the mid 2000s but people are stubborn on both sides so this is going to happen. The whole issue is complicated and its only since deciding to learn Dutch for work reasons I’ve got my head round a fraction of what is going on there. (it is not a complete victory for the right either in NL as to be fair they have not had the serious political violence that other nations in EU have experienced nor does NL want to lose its reputation as a tolerant multicultural nation even if there are problems like anywhere else in Europe).

    However, at present if you are planning on visiting a North European country specifically to party you may be better off going to Denmark where the folk there have made a stand with their democracies that they are willing to tolerate a bit more. NL might well get better but things aren’t like what they used to be there. (just read in volkskrant a rave with 400 people locked off, they were lucky not to get ME (riot police) set on them but thankfully this didn’t happen)

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    The whole issue is a bit confusing, I have just talked to my friends from Be/lux and they insists the ban is on….they were in Adam 2 weeks ago and couldn’t get anything decent to smoke except from the streets…so more reports had been nice to settle this matter for now….its not ban on a substance its a ban on a culture and for me that is fascist politics and should be fought by any means….and with all kind of actions like non-violent civil-disobedience, demonstrations, colours of all kinds…. and last but not least a BIG SMILE!

    I have had to do research of documents in both English and Dutch going back as far as the late 90s. I wouldn’t be at all urprised if there are elements within the Police and others with real authority who would be trying to hurry the ban along even in Amsterdam by finding other laws to stop the sales, same as how mephedrone sales were disrupted in UK before it became illegal. Also because whilst folk from BE do often speak Dutch there are linguistic differences, they are easy enough identified and targeted (at very least they are the butt of jokes).

    I agree it is not just a ban on a substance. They (right wing) simply do not want any of the party events including the massive ID&T ones even though they are sponsored by Heineken, Vodafone etc. Nor do they want the “ethnic” music scenes found in most European cities. This is also why ID&T started up the Mystery events with greater wider social conscience, I don’t think its a coincidence these started around the same time as economic depression and social concerns, and that stuff like multiculturalism is highly promoted at a mystery event (more so than other dance events). I think this might be ID&T’s way of fighting back without causing massive problems to themselves or the entire NL music scene.

    Also one reason those big events are so prominent is because only by tying up with mobile phone companies and breweries can they get licenses. Of course with too much alcohol/coke then there can be violent incidents, and the right wing seize on these and use them to increase licensing costs. Worse still, a recent trend to include English urban acts (who tend to be from a mixture of racial groups but with more black and Asian people) is another thing the right are subtly using to claim increased risks/concerns, including sadly spreading hate amongst the young.

    BTW it also seemed clear one reason paddo’s (magic mushrooms) were banned was because the East Europeans had got a good foothold in this business. FFS these dudes have always grown and processed mushrooms (more commonly the champignons or ones what folk can eat))! so not surprising they did well in this busineses.

    Actually the area where I live is very culturally close to NL due to shipping/trade links and I can see much of the same things happening here but on a smaller scale.

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    It’s a shame that we’ve seen a resurgence in right-wing politics in Europe and the US. Man is, after all, violent when oppressed, and gentle when free.

    if you look more closely at the election results (even more complex as Northern European nations like DK, NL and DE have proportional representation) it is not a complete victory for either side, more a case of nations getting half divided and where there are majorities there are very slim ones.

    NL is unique though as historically there are some important issues where they have to abandon party politics because of the requirement to work together on infrastructure what stops the North Sea flooding a large chunk their entire nation. We have the same issues to a extent here but as its not quite as bad (there are higher places) there is a view “let the stubborn buggers all drown”.

    In reality though the hard right aren’t in fact as numerous as folk think. What is more worrying politically (and is showm up more in the European nations including the UK) is since the economic depression a shift towards “classic liberalism” rather than “social democracy” which has already fucked up most of the British left and yet because of American influences on our language doesn’t seem too bad on first glance, especially as “liberals” are usually seen as trendier/cool things to be than conservatives, and many of these “liberals” claim to support some form of drugs legalisation.

    this politics is in fact “let mehave the freedom to do what I want and fuck everyone else” and is thus appealing to the wannabe alpha males of the dominant race of any nation. Sadly the drugs/party scene has in recent times been contaminated by a lot of this attitude which is why it gets a worse reputation than it deserves (and why smart people like those behind Mysteryland are trying to reverse these problems).

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    if they say no to serving me i’ll just get my bum out and say ik hou van je. they’ll give me free weed and their love.

    It looks like holland is going in for a new parliament election, that might change it all, hopefully.

    vote for pedro

    If any of you dudes go holland and need bud. Holla at me ive got a brother from another mother down there that can help you out.

    I wonder… if you were born there, could u still get a card or does this only apply to citizens with a passport. Cos i dont think you can have duel citizenship in the UK an the Netherlands, was hoping to go back to holland and live there some how in order to get duel citizenship, but dont think this plan will work though 🙁

    The extents i would go for weed…

    Big shame this.

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