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  • So me and my girlfriend went up to the north east of Thailand to see something that I have always wanted to witness. When she said to me ” Do you want to come to Udonthani to see my friends boyfriend become a monk ” I jumped at the chance. So after a 8 hour bus ride from Bangkok we arrived and was kindley made welcome at the monk to be’s parents for 3 days. :wink::love:

    After a good sleep on a hard mat we woke up at 6am and went to the Temple.

    Day1.
    Arrived at the temple and we all went inside, I sat on the mat and feeling a litttle weird, all eyes were on me and not on the monk to be, but I sat in silence and respected there religon. So it started with the prayers singing and wailing,which was comforting, I even but my hands together and waied at the budda image. After the food was given to the monks (giving arms) we got are share of food and sat and ate. Then I meet him , the monk to be. I wai, and said “sawadcup” He smiled and said ” hello”. Took a walk to the other temple and began cuting his hair. The Thai’s had got all the equipment ready including a leaf which catches the hair as it falls. This leaf is kept by the family. The family first cuts the hair and even gave me the scissors to have a snip. Then the monks shave the hair and the eyebrows. I asked my girl why this is done and she says ” so a monk does not need to rely on shampoo and is going back to a new birth “. Then he went into the temple and he got his ‘angel dress’ This garment is given before the orange robes as a symbol of a new begining. We went back to his house which is in the temple complex were he signs some paperwork. He then went to pray and we went home to eat again. A monk only eats once a day and this is in the morning. 😉

    Day2
    This seemed a longer day with lots of praying and singing. Lots of speeches or prayers all in Thai so I really didn’t understand much of what was happening. We then got up and walked to the other temple. Then they walk around the temple. The monk walks around the temple 3 times with all his family and friends chanting at the top of their voice with drums banging and flutes tweeting (it sounded like bad teckno). He stops at the main door then enters the temple after asking the head monk to enter the monk hood.
    Then the monks dress him in his orange robes and is escorted to the front of the temple. He ask’s pemisssion to enter the temple, goes inside and sits in front of the budda image. Then is surronded by the other monk’s, they pray together. After a good 30 mins he comes outside and the party begins. He is now a monk and I’m in ore.
    I have tryed to tell this story from what I know and what I saw but as you know Buddism is a complexed religon. So If I have left something important out I’m sorry. Also I added alot of photos I hope it isn’t to many but every picture paints a thousand words.:wink:

    thanks for this – interesting stuff….

    Was it a temporary or permanent ordination?

    I initially thought that (having initially had a Catholic upbringing) monks either had vows of celibacy or had to stay in monasteries and thought surely his girlfriend and family would miss him; but it appears that in TH that temporary ordination is a form of showing self-discipline and respect to your family – as well as gaining education in a more disciplined and focused environment than a Western-style university.

    I found this on wikipedia as well..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theravada

    Ordination

    The minimum age for ordaining as a Buddhist monk is 20 years. However, boys under that age are allowed to ordain as novices (samanera). Novices shave their heads, wear the yellow robes, and observe ten basic precepts. Although no specific minimum age for novices is mentioned in the scriptures, traditionally boys as young as seven are accepted. This tradition follows the story of the Lord Buddha’s son, Rahula, who was allowed to become a novice at the age of seven. Monks follow 227 rules of discipline, while nuns follow 311 rules.
    In most Theravada countries, it is a common practice for young men to ordain as monks for a fixed period of time. In Thailand and Myanmar, young men typically ordain for the 3 month Rain Retreat (vassa), though shorter or longer periods of ordination are not rare. Traditionally, temporary ordination was even more flexible among Laotians. Once they had undergone their initial ordination as young men, Laotian men were permitted to temporarily ordain again at any time, though married men were expected to seek their wife’s permission. Throughout Southeast Asia, there is little stigma attached to leaving the monastic life. Monks regularly leave the robes after acquiring an education, or when compelled by family obligations or ill-health.
    Ordaining as a monk, even for a short period, is seen as having many virtues. In many Southeast Asian cultures, it is seen as a means for a young man to ‘repay’ his parents for their work and effort in raising him, because the merit from his ordination accrues to them as well. Thai men who have ordained as a monk may be seen as more fit husbands by Thai women, who refer to men who have served as monks with a colloquial term meaning ‘cooked’ to indicate that they are more mature and ready for marriage. Particularly in rural areas, temporary ordination of boys and young men traditionally gave peasant boys an opportunity to gain an education in temple schools without committing to a permanent monastic life.

    i spent a bit of time on Thailand and it seems a majority of men become a monk at least once in their life, for a period of time… many return to their life when they feel the time is right

    Was it a temporary or permanent ordination?
    I initially thought that (having initially had a Catholic upbringing) monks either had vows of celibacy or had to stay in monasteries and thought surely his girlfriend and family would miss him; but it appears that in TH that temporary ordination is a form of showing self-discipline and respect to your family – as well as gaining education in a more disciplined and focused environment than a Western-style university.

    That article was something new for me. I new he was 22 and he was going into monk hood for 3 months. As you correctly pointed out, his girlfriend and family were in sense of respect and can I say passion for him. But I heard from my girl that his girlfriend will miss him. Also I heard all Thai men go into the monk hood before marridge. So maybe a post will come soon on Thai weddings. As for sexual thought it is forbidden. In fact my girl told me that no girl can touch a monk. Even men should not really shake hands with a monk but once again we go back this (middle path).
    As for gaining education I know this is vital to buddism. He will be reading scripts and learning all sorts of new lessons. As for Buddism as a hole religon its very complicated.
    This is what makes Buddism so hard to learn, Indian,Thai and other respected countries all have there own version (middle path) on Buddism. I.e some eat meat some don’t.
    I have been learning alot about it but still find myself asking more questions than I get answers. 😉

    Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.

    thank you for sharing – fascinating

    :weee::weee::weee::weee::weee:

    and a great idea too

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