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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3laVISXLA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebadsci%20ence%2Enet%2F

    scary when you consider they have nuclear weapons and an ape for a president

    Stuff science. Science is crazy talk based on fiction. We need cold hard facts to show us our history, hence the Bible is the ideal textbook.

    Rejoice!

    That is scary.
    I met a teacher from Washington a few years back. She told me that a lot of the schools receive funding from various Christian organisations who then impose conditions on what the schools can teach and which books they are allowed to buy.
    Talk about mis-education.
    I hope they sort it out soon or they’re going to cause problems for the whole world. I mean more problems for the whole world.
    The internet should help but will it be censored by mis-educated parents?

    AJS wrote:
    The internet should help but will it be censored by mis-educated parents?

    most ISPs worldwide now implement “parental controls” (i.e censorship software) as a “selling point”, the front end of the software is even built into many routers.

    I activated it once on a router at work as an experiment – one of the bog-standard routers delivered by BT and sold in various guises across the world.

    Within seconds this site was blocked – a warning saying “access denied” came up instead of any of the partyvibe pages…

    No reason was given for why PV was blocked (although I expect drugs content was the reason) and without any method of the people using the router (even administrators or IT technicians who would be installing it!) being able to challenge the decision.

    I’m fascinated by evolution almost to the point of obsession. There are some excellent websites about it such as palaeos and the tree of life and there have been some brilliant BBC programs like walking with dinosaurs, walking with beasts and walking with monsters, all of which I’ve got on DVD. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
    Our own direct ansestors include rhipidistians – meter long fish, anthracosaurs – giant carnivorous amphibians, captorhinids – the first ever reptiles, sphenacodons – giant reptiles at the top of the food chain, therocephalians – who killed their prey with a poisonous bite, and cynodonts – who evolved into the first ever mammals. :weee: :weee: :weee:
    The truth about how we all really got here over the last three and a half billion years is far more interesting than a stupid made up fairytail about some old magician called God floating around on a clowd making humans out of his spit mixed with mud. :you_crazy :you_crazy :you_crazy

    fucking hell:you_crazy

    that guy should not be allowed to talk to kids.

    cezar wrote:
    I’m fascinated by evolution almost to the point of obsession. There are some excellent websites about it such as palaeos and the tree of life and there have been some brilliant BBC programs like walking with dinosaurs, walking with beasts and walking with monsters, all of which I’ve got on DVD. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
    Our own direct ansestors include rhipidistians – meter long fish, anthracosaurs – giant carnivorous amphibians, captorhinids – the first ever reptiles, sphenacodons – giant reptiles at the top of the food chain, therocephalians – who killed their prey with a poisonous bite, and cynodonts – who evolved into the first ever mammals. :weee: :weee: :weee:
    The truth about how we all really got here over the last three and a half billion years is far more interesting than a stupid made up fairytail about some old magician called God floating around on a clowd making humans out of his spit mixed with mud. :you_crazy :you_crazy :you_crazy

    YOU MEEN GOD DIDNT MAKE ME OUT OF SPIT?…………Then how did I get here:hopeless:????

    creationists populate york. standing on the streets, grabbing you, willing you to listen. so one time, me and me mates decided to have an argument with them. basically, he said “how could this place be made without god. there always has to be a creator”… “ok then mate. so who created the creator, if there always has to be a creator?” i cant remember who won that argument.

    however next time one of them grabbed me, i gotta say i was quite aggresive and pissed off. i told him, that basically i don’t go around shouting my views and pushing my beliefs on people, and neither should he.

    as it happens, i’m agnostic. i haven’t got a fuckin clue… it just annoys me a bit when people push their faith onto you whether you like it or not.

    boothy wrote:
    it just annoys me a bit when people push their faith onto you whether you like it or not.

    Hear hear raaa

    As uncle Bill says – have you ever noticed how creationists all look really unevolved – like sloping brows, big furry hands…..

    “I believe god made me in one day…..”

    “Yep. Looks like he rushed it.”:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

    It’s not just the US that’s getting into this idea of teaching it in schools though – there are schools in this country that teach creationism “alongside” traditional evolution theory so the pupils can make their own “informed” choice of which to believe:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy. They are inevitably funded by “born again” christian groups…

    Surely the whole point of teaching is that you TEACH – ie you pass on your accumulated knowledge and wisdom to the next generation to better equip them to deal with the future. And surely the basis of teaching is that you have some fact with which to back up your teachings – beliefs (with no provable scientific basis) should be kept firmly in the realm of philosophy, and have no place in the objective, results based world of science. That’s not to say we shouldn’t teach philosophy, just that we shouldn’t confuse it with the world of objective science.

    Imagine what would happen if we started teaching qabbalistic numerology alongside conventional maths, or astrology as part of history (to explain the forces influencing historical decisions and events…). Hell, we could end up teaching that fire is cold, or that you won’t be hurt if you get run over by a train because some crackpot believes that to be true, and has the cash to fund a school.

    Faith schools are not only a barrier to our evolution, but also create barriers in our society that can only lead to problems for our entire race. Teaching children that if they believe a particular thing, they are special, and those who don’t believe it are somehow inferior (every religion has elements of villifiying/patronising the infidel after all), can only lead to trouble. Our history tells us this time and again (in the form of senseless wars and witch hunts, and all manner of idiocy). Maybe it’s time we actually learned the lesson?

    If you are so concerned that your offspring will lack your beliefs and convictions that you have to indoctrinate them as children, because you feel a rational adult would question the basis of those beliefs, then maybe you should look at your beliefs a bit more closely. And if your belief is so strong that you know it’s right, then surely it is strong enough that it can survive the test of letting your children make up their own minds without requiring indoctrination at the most vulnerable and impressionable time of their existence.

    PHARTY wrote:
    YOU MEEN GOD DIDNT MAKE ME OUT OF SPIT?…………Then how did I get here:hopeless:????

    I think they found you in the cabbage patch P 😉

    tarifa wrote:
    I think they found you in the cabbage patch P 😉

    That must be why my favorite vegatables a Phartychoke:wink:

    PHARTY wrote:
    That must be why my favorite vegatables a Phartychoke:wink:

    OMG! :oh_god: :oh_god: :oh_god: That is terrible, even for you! :laugh_at: :laugh_at: :laugh_at:

    tarifa wrote:
    OMG! :oh_god: :oh_god: :oh_god: That is terrible, even for you! :laugh_at: :laugh_at: :laugh_at:

    Yes I really am terrible:weee::groucho:

    PHARTY wrote:
    Yes I really am terrible:weee::groucho:

    :laugh_at: :laugh_at: :laugh_at: I believe you, thousands wouldn’t!

    What you doin here this time of day? Nice to have you but what time is it down your way? 😉

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