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  • @palpa7 983166 wrote:

    try totanoata encrypted email its amazing you have to have all repondents passwords to read itstas encyrypted highlevel on any servers the police hate this one easy to use

    What? Maybe I’m misreading that but you say you need all the recipients passwords to send them mail? No-one should be knowing anyones passwords for anything ever. I’m gonna guess that’s a public key crypto system where each user generates 2 keys before sending any messages. One key is private and kept secret, the other key is public and could be printed in the New York Times if wanted but the public key can only encrypt messages, it can’t also decrypt them. The secret, private key that is held by the recipient is the only key that can decipher the messages, and again, the private key cannot encrypt messages so he needs to other persons public key to encrypt any replies.

    Exact way PGP (GnuPG now) works. but again, if you are picked up by anyone expert enough in rubber hose cryptography, the password for the private key can be obtained pretty quickly with a brute force attack and render ever message you have saved readable. Perfect Forward Secrecy can help get around that as it encrypts each message with a different key each time.

    Or you could use self destructing messaging services like cryptobin or onetimesecret.com (there are quite a few) which allows you to create a message which is then encrypted and you geta URL for that message. Pass the URL to the person you want, they click on it and as soon as the message has been opened, it is wiped from the system making it unrecoverable. Another benefit to this is if your communications are being intercepted, you’ll know for a fact they are if one of you ever foes to read a message and it was already destroyed by some other party reading it.

    yes they read them in a predictive fashion


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      i have been assigned in 2014 to work undercover for infiltrating the party vibe organisation. i could read every pm, but after passing
      days to read pm’s full of sex and drug crap. it was so boring that i decided to try some different drugs… it went totally out of control
      and I was rapidely unmasked and at the same time my superiors find out that i was totally addicted and was fired. after having passed
      nearly 6 month last year in a hospital having been beaten from the still secret members, i returned here but sadly nobody wants to talk with me:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:::cry::cry:

      i have tried all :sign0013::sign0079: am realy sad 🙁 , but am now addicted and i don’t know where i could else go, i still hope some people will accept my “sorry having been undercover”.
      I didn’t realise before i enter here that this community are friendly people. so, i am waiting hidden in the dark and hopping that someone gives me a new chance. cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

      BUT BE CAREFULL I HAVE CERTAINLY ALREADY BEEN REPLACED, I SUSPECT DR BUNSEN OR MAYBE ANGEL, They are even part of the ILLUMINATY, so stay careful (I HEARD SATAN WOIULD BE THE CHIEF UNDER AN AVATAR NAME BEGINING WITH TRIP).

      IF am dead tomorrow, it will mean i was right 😉

      @palpa7 983304 wrote:

      yes they read them in a predictive fashion

      You’re wrong, very wrong.


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        if they want to read i fuck the police, they are welcome


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          after Swiss laws , if an investigation is open against someone, they just have to ask the judge, but i am persuade that they will often if they have
          suspition on something interresting, they will if they feel like read PM even without an autorisation do it, and will ask the autorisation as soon they found illegaly
          informations, but they won’t talk a word about what tbey get illegaly.

          In my old case, 20 years ago, it was written, from confidential sources, we have …….. which could mean someone sang a song about me, but how they get the info’s won’t be given.

          @iliesse 985320 wrote:

          after Swiss laws , if an investigation is open against someone, they just have to ask the judge, but i am persuade that they will often if they have
          suspition on something interresting, they will if they feel like read PM even without an autorisation do it, and will ask the autorisation as soon they found illegaly
          informations, but they won’t talk a word about what tbey get illegaly.

          In my old case, 20 years ago, it was written, from confidential sources, we have …….. which could mean someone sang a song about me, but how they get the info’s won’t be given.

          That’s all well and good but can they break SSL, apparent;y NSA developped a method but how effective and how often they can make use of it IDK, but unless you’re a terrorist that should never even be known about never miond accessed by anuone that cares about arresting you.

          20 years ago many European countries still had the PTT (where all communications services were owned by the government) and British Telecom still has close links with UK Government so they could (and often did) monitor anything they wish.

          Often they didn’t bother with warrants at all, if a senior police officer could convince other staff at the PTT there was a genuine risk to society the info would be handed over. Attitudes to this of course varied within countries and even across regions but many folk genuinely thought drugs were a “plot from the Soviet Union”, a lot of European areas were (and maybe still are) highly religious and genuinely shocked by the sudden explosion in drugs culture across the continent (as it didn’t take too long before folk were ending up in the surgeries and hospitals from the after effects) and they were equally suspicious of the EU which was a new thing then and not fully implemented until 1999.

          Many who grew up in during the 80s/90s simply assumed everything was monitored, fixed phones, mobile phones, radio communications, the Internet and took care what they said or posted.

          You’d even get blatant hints dropped by the sort of profs posting to newsgroups like comp.sys.fortran with domains ending in *.mod.uk turning up on groups you wouldnt expect them to frequency, and posting that they were “working on certain projects” and they would often subtly tip folk off who might be veering across the boundaries between mischief and genuine criminality.

          None of this stopped us having fun….


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            ayway the quest is :can they?, and the answer is , if they need , they can!!!!

            they can and in recent cases in the UK (serious crimes such as kidnap, rape and murder with victims under age 18) have been able to access all sorts of supposedly encrypted services on the mobile devices of both suspects and victims (in cases of grooming etc).

            in the UK and maybe globally whenever anyone involved in the case (either suspects or victims) is below age 18 all the human rights/privacy protections are overruled by “UN rights of the child” and there is an expectation that telecoms companies and tech firms will assist the authorities.

            Mobile phone providers in this country (possibly also elsewhere) are highly dependent on revenue from parents who buy devices and/or credit for their teenage children and cannot afford bad publicity from being associated with creating “unsafe environments”; and these customers are viewed as more lucrative than “privacy concious” young adults who often use second hand or modified devices and other tech like VPNs, ad blockers etc which limit the revenue to the mobile ecosystem…


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              @General Lighting 985324 wrote:

              they can and in recent cases in the UK (serious crimes such as kidnap, rape and murder with victims under age 18) have been able to access all sorts of supposedly encrypted services on the mobile devices of both suspects and victims (in cases of grooming etc).

              in the UK and maybe globally whenever anyone involved in the case (either suspects or victims) is below age 18 all the human rights/privacy protections are overruled by “UN rights of the child” and there is an expectation that telecoms companies and tech firms will assist the authorities.

              Mobile phone providers in this country (possibly also elsewhere) are highly dependent on revenue from parents who buy devices and/or credit for their teenage children and cannot afford bad publicity from being associated with creating “unsafe environments”; and these customers are viewed as more lucrative than “privacy concious” young adults who often use second hand or modified devices and other tech like VPNs, ad blockers etc which limit the revenue to the mobile ecosystem…

              do u mean for minors under 18, telecoms companies and tech firms will assist the authorities legally or illegally ???

              the exact definition of what is a lawful or unlawful intercept depends on domestic laws but there may be a legal requirement in UK law for tech firms to assist the authorities as much as possible when the safety of minors are involved.

              The commercial incentive to keep networks safe for families and all ages so mums and dads buy their children mobile devices is much more powerful than that of the governments or Courts worldwide.

              @General Lighting 985324 wrote:

              they can and in recent cases in the UK (serious crimes such as kidnap, rape and murder with victims under age 18) have been able to access all sorts of supposedly encrypted services on the mobile devices of both suspects and victims (in cases of grooming etc).

              in the UK and maybe globally whenever anyone involved in the case (either suspects or victims) is below age 18 all the human rights/privacy protections are overruled by “UN rights of the child” and there is an expectation that telecoms companies and tech firms will assist the authorities.

              Mobile phone providers in this country (possibly also elsewhere) are highly dependent on revenue from parents who buy devices and/or credit for their teenage children and cannot afford bad publicity from being associated with creating “unsafe environments”; and these customers are viewed as more lucrative than “privacy concious” young adults who often use second hand or modified devices and other tech like VPNs, ad blockers etc which limit the revenue to the mobile ecosystem…

              Cellebrite data etraction device or similar…….

              @deliriyummy 813859 wrote:

              Hey Peoples!

              Just a quick question. So i was wondering how secure the private message function is on this website… So say if someone were saying something sensitive…. could that be.. intercepted by the police do you think?

              Hmm

              Paranoiaaa.. lol

              I have a VPN software installed on my PC. I am using my phone right now but since I’m never on wifi, then there’s too much traffic across the phone company’s network for them to give much of a shit. The VPN software allows me to hide my IP address and I can make it look like I’m anywhere in the world, literally. If the FBI really wanted to read my or anyone else’s PMs on here, they would’ve already done it. I do recommend an IP hider though.

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