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  • I’ve been taking pills and powder for over 10 years now and lately I cannot believe how shit the quality is.
    I just don’t understand what is going on. I live down in Cornwall and have had many good years with good shit but now i’m considering kicking the lot in because i’m fed up paying good money for crap.

    I can understand that people maybe be cutting powder a lot more these days but as for pills? Are people actually knowingly making shit pills? Whats the point? I mean the guy who makes pills don’t pay for the MDMA, some clever fucker synthesises it in his flat or in a lab with a bunch of chemicals.

    Maybe i’ve just been unlucky these days but i can’t believe how hard it is to get a quality supply compared to what it used to be.

    Is it just me or what?
    The only way is up i suppose.

    Yep I know what you mean the quality of e’s up in Scotland has been terrible.. People fighting after taking them ??? .. what the hells that all about???…

    Craig-s wrote:
    Yep I know what you mean the quality of e’s up in Scotland has been terrible.. People fighting after taking them ??? .. what the hells that all about???…

    TBH there are a number of issues here

    a basic economics lesson : its clearly the case the amount of active ingredient in most pills is being reduced as the street price drops – the extra business costs associated with lost resources to law enforcement activity (stuff being seized, people going to jail) stilll have to be swallowed up somehow, and if the profit level is to remain the same in a now low-cost commodity quality must be reduced to conserve the expensive stuff like MDMA.

    however if everyone abandons pills because they are completely inert then it would kill the market for everybody; already they are becoming way less popular.

    there is also the fact that young teenagers who take them for the first time will obviously have a more novel mindset and enjoy them more than gnarled old-skool ravers who now old enough to be the parents of the younger users..

    OTOH if todays teens had access to pills that were around 15 years ago but took them in the numbers consumed today I expect the NHS would end up burying young bodies like they buried cows and sheep in the foot and mouth days, whilst UN troops attempted to restore some semblance of order on the streets of Britain. Even with todays rubbish ones some kids take so many they suffer fairly serious (if thankfully short-term) mental and physical health problems.

    however I think the people fighting after taking pills is more a problem due to an increasingly violent angry society than the drugs themselves.

    I have heard Scots friends describe people who would “start a fecht in an empty hoose” – if they take pills the drug will simply amplify their feelings of anger; in the same way electronic equipment will amplify noise and interference if not initially provided with a good clean signal.

    neither is such behaviour confined to Scotland, a young Londoner killed a rival after taking pills, despite his claim in court “he did not like them as they made him violent”

    General Lighting wrote:
    TBH there are a number of issues here

    a basic economics lesson : its clearly the case the amount of active ingredient in most pills is being reduced as the street price drops – the extra business costs associated with lost resources to law enforcement activity (stuff being seized, people going to jail) stilll have to be swallowed up somehow, and if the profit level is to remain the same in a now low-cost commodity quality must be reduced to conserve the expensive stuff like MDMA.

    however if everyone abandons pills because they are completely inert then it would kill the market for everybody; already they are becoming way less popular.

    there is also the fact that young teenagers who take them for the first time will obviously have a more novel mindset and enjoy them more than gnarled old-skool ravers who now old enough to be the parents of the younger users..

    OTOH if todays teens had access to pills that were around 15 years ago but took them in the numbers consumed today I expect the NHS would end up burying young bodies like they buried cows and sheep in the foot and mouth days, whilst UN troops attempted to restore some semblance of order on the streets of Britain. Even with todays rubbish ones some kids take so many they suffer fairly serious (if thankfully short-term) mental and physical health problems.

    however I think the people fighting after taking pills is more a problem due to an increasingly violent angry society than the drugs themselves.

    I have heard Scots friends describe people who would “start a fecht in an empty hoose” – if they take pills the drug will simply amplify their feelings of anger; in the same way electronic equipment will amplify noise and interference if not initially provided with a good clean signal.

    neither is such behaviour confined to Scotland, a young Londoner killed a rival after taking pills, despite his claim in court “he did not like them as they made him violent”

    Ok know what your saying some people will just want to cause trouble what ever happens using the pills as an excuse I guess.. I recon a good thread would be “Worst Pills taken” to warn others of the rubbish going about e.g these red smilly things that are causing bother on the east coast of Scotland at the moment. Good Idea ??

    craig-s wrote:
    Ok know what your saying some people will just want to cause trouble what ever happens using the pills as an excuse I guess.. I recon a good thread would be “Worst Pills taken” to warn others of the rubbish going about e.g these red smilly things that are causing bother on the east coast of Scotland at the moment. Good Idea ??

    definitely, we have actually got an active thread on at the moment about some dodgy pills in London which may actually be dangerous.

    if anyone is feeling particularly unwell after taking anything then (particularly if they needed any form of medical treatment or were behaving in an odd manner such as a normally peaceful person becoming aggressive) please also post as much detail as possible – appearance of pills, country, and approximate region.

    General Lighting wrote:
    definitely, we have actually got an active thread on at the moment about some dodgy pills in London which may actually be dangerous.

    if anyone is feeling particularly unwell after taking anything then (particularly if they needed any form of medical treatment or were behaving in an odd manner such as a normally peaceful person becoming aggressive) please also post as much detail as possible – appearance of pills, country, and approximate region.

    Can’t find the thread ?? please advise !!

    Whats your advice then lads? Knock it on the head because its not worth it anymore or have i just been unlucky? Is there still some fun stuff out there?

    ALAN wrote:
    Whats your advice then lads? Knock it on the head because its not worth it anymore or have i just been unlucky? Is there still some fun stuff out there?

    No chance!!! It’s a quality issue .. Start making it 🙂

    there seems to be a lot of crystal mudman for sale. although there are ways to cut it, the telltale signs are easier to spot than by looking at powder

    i stopped taking pills a while ago

    globalloon wrote:
    there seems to be a lot of crystal mudman for sale. although there are ways to cut it, the telltale signs are easier to spot than by looking at powder

    i stopped taking pills a while ago

    Never seen that up here.. Where can I get some ??????

    I agree mate, where do you get some quality shit? Who can you trust these days?

    I tell you, I would pay £50 for half of one of the pills that was knocking round 11 or 12 years ago! Surely someone can see the massive returns with making quality stuff?

    Hi Alan
    Kinda like everything these days I suppose “Fuck the quality lets make money”. I mean to put things in pills that could kill people is just wrong!! Way past getting the jail type a wrong in my book..

    Alright Craig,

    The thing is i genuinely believe that if someone manufactured quality pills again then they would make an absolute killing. So if they want to make massive returns for their investment then quality is the key. I would certainly go back for more and pay a premium.

    up until a couple of years ago i was close to someone involved in production

    he made two varieties of pill; strong and not so strong

    both would be very clean, although the less strong were aimed at a less descerning party goers who would be more likely to bosh a handful, so he made them weaker to reduce the chance of people over doing it if they weren’t used to or expecting the full 160 milligrams he put in the stronger ones (he also sold them a bit more cheaply)

    although production was on a large scale, few of his wares ever made it this side of the channel

    one of the recent difficulties with setting up a factory here in the UK recently has been terrorism; not only have border controls tightened, but chemicals used in the production of what we want is also used in the preparation of explosisves, so anyone trying to buy these chemicals is likely to set off alarm bells all over the place

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