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August 25, 2008 at 3:49 pm

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monkey1

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hi all. SWIM has ordered a long list of botanical drugs from SWIMS favourite shaman shop.

What SWIM wants to know is…
what are your experiances with these drugs?
what is the best way to take them/the best combinations?
for example, SWIM bought an ounce of californian poppy herbs. SWIM would like to know if he should try to make an extraction of this as SWIM has heard californian poppy is very weak?

also SWIM has heard one should not mix maoi’s or ssri’s.
SWIM would like to know what other people think on this subject?

the list is as follows:

-(kava kava) Kavalactone 84% Paste
-Three Lotus Paste Blend (3 Grams)
-Private Reserve Kratom Leaf 1oz
-Red Poppy Flower Petals (Papaver rhoeas) 1oz
-Blue Lotus Petals (Nelumbo Nucifera) hoz
-California Poppy (Eschscholzia californica ) Dried herb 1oz
-Wild Dagga Flat Dried Leaf (Klip) 1oz
-Wild Dagga Flowers (Lion’s Tail) – 1oz
-Wormwood “10x” Resin (3 grams)
-Wild Lettuce Resin (Lactuca virosa) – 3 Grams

thanks
August 25, 2008 at 4:00 pm

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Southcaver

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Who is this swim guy evaryone keeps going on about?
August 25, 2008 at 4:23 pm

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Southcaver;232855 wrote:

Who is this swim guy evaryone keeps going on about?

SWIM = Someone Who Isn’t Me
August 26, 2008 at 4:28 pm

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monkey1;232854 wrote:

hi all. SWIM has ordered a long list of botanical drugs from SWIMS favourite shaman shop.

What SWIM wants to know is…
what are your experiances with these drugs?
what is the best way to take them/the best combinations?
for example, SWIM bought an ounce of californian poppy herbs. SWIM would like to know if he should try to make an extraction of this as SWIM has heard californian poppy is very weak?

also SWIM has heard one should not mix maoi’s or ssri’s.
SWIM would like to know what other people think on this subject?

swim shouldnt be using drugs there bad for ya.
August 26, 2008 at 4:30 pm

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ellie

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that swim, he’s always up to no good!
August 27, 2008 at 11:10 am

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DiscoTeam

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swim is going to regret buying those
August 28, 2008 at 12:01 pm

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sirstonealot

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DiscoTeam;233010 wrote:

swim is going to regret buying those

Really, why ?
August 28, 2008 at 12:25 pm

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DiscoTeam

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sirstonealot;233207 wrote:

Really, why ?

well ive done a fair few of them and found them all to be useless! the most ive had is from salv ia and even that was a heaviness in my body and a kind of spacey feeling that went away in about 3 mins.

actually no woodrose seeds were quite effective, i had about 13 or 14 when really drunk and it was pretty intense and i spewed everywhere!!
August 28, 2008 at 2:14 pm

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process

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DiscoTeam;233010 wrote:

swim is going to regret buying those

+1 :laugh_at:
August 28, 2008 at 11:08 pm

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monkey1

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people react differently to these sort of drugs. one person might not get an effect at all while another might get smashed out thier face. kratom is one of those drugs. im sure i wont be pleased with my whole order, but im dam sure that package will put a smile on my face…. ill let u know..
August 28, 2008 at 11:13 pm

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monkey1;233289 wrote:

people react differently to these sort of drugs. one person might not get an effect at all while another might get smashed out thier face. kratom is one of those drugs. im sure i wont be pleased with my whole order, but im dam sure that package will put a smile on my face…. ill let u know..

herbal highs have never worked for me ive tried nearly all the stuff on everyonedoesit.com and ended wif the conclusion that Salvia and HBWS are the only ones worth buying, but as you say, different people react differently, its all to do with the chemicals in yor brain;)
August 29, 2008 at 9:55 am

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Cosmic_Energy;233290 wrote:

herbal highs have never worked for me ive tried nearly all the stuff on everyonedoesit.com and ended wif the conclusion that Salvia and HBWS are the only ones worth buying, but as you say, different people react differently, its all to do with the chemicals in yor brain;)

There’s also the combination of certian herbal substances and an MOAI that causes DMT to be released, which works, peyote and other mescaline containing cacti, and some other minor ones. But for the most part unless you read about it on erowid or something it’s probably bunk.
September 3, 2008 at 4:13 am

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Pat Mabaws

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Cab;233334 wrote:

There’s also the combination of certian herbal substances and an MOAI that causes DMT to be released, which works, peyote and other mescaline containing cacti, and some other minor ones. But for the most part unless you read about it on erowid or something it’s probably bunk.

That would be ayahuasca, DMT is present in many grasses & barks, and is mixed with a MAOI which prevents a stomach enzyme from destroying the DMT, making it active in your system.

Possibly the ultimate trip, not for the faint of heart

I’ve tried a some of the mescaline cacti and it was mind blowing stuff, highly reccomended 🙂
September 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm

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monkey1

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im not into tripping out my mind these days….. so ill be leaving the dmt well alone…… swims package has arrived! swim you let you know what he does and how….

swim was thinking to make wild dagga extract and also a californian poppy extract
September 3, 2008 at 6:40 pm

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Pat Mabaws

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I’ve no experience personaly with most of your list, only blue lotus, which was an extract, an that gave a similar high to marijuana I thought, very mellow

Best of luck with your package, let us know how you get on 🙂
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