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  • http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4495085.stm

    Reprieve for Devon’s wild goats

    A decision on whether to cull a herd of wild goats in Devon has been postponed.
    Wild goats have roamed the Valley of Rocks near Lynmouth, north Devon, for hundreds of years and 79 were recorded in the Domesday book.

    Some residents want to get rid of the goats claiming they are destructive, while others say they should stay.

    Councillors were due to confirm a decision on Thursday, but will now hold a special meeting in the next few weeks so that all sides can air their views.

    The goats roaming the rugged Exmoor valley have strayed into the town to graze on plants and flowers in gardens, allotments and the local cemetery.

    Some locals say the goats are ruining the area and are pressing Lynton Town Council to carry out the cull.

    The move has attracted fierce opposition from environmental groups.

    Lynton resident Roland Gold believes there are alternative ways of dealing with the goats.

    He said: “We’ve been trying to sort out a system of fencing and cattle grids to make it possible to keep the animals in the valley where they’re needed.

    Tourist attraction

    “Unfortunately, there are people against cattle grids and there are people against fencing and there are people who’re unhappy with the goats intruding in gardens.”

    Mr Gold says the goats are not dangerous and attract thousands of tourists to the area every year.

    The RSPCA criticised the planned cull, saying it was not aware of any research demonstrating it was necessary.

    Kevin Manning, the charity’s regional animal welfare manager, said: “There are ways of ensuring good animal welfare and controlling numbers of feral goats without mass culling.”

    He pointed to the selective breeding programme at the Great Orme in Wales, which has an established feral goat colony, as a way of managing numbers.

    ‘No discrimination’

    But other townspeople say the goats are a problem which must be tackled.

    One resident said: “They have no discrimination and they’ll just go anywhere they can to find something to eat. They’re a pest and there’s no doubt about it.”

    Town clerk Geoff Dwyer told BBC News the council was in discussions with English Nature.

    “The valley needs management and one option is grazing,” he said.

    “There are about 80 goats and we will be discussing various options, including relocating a significant number of them, if not all.

    “Opinion in the town is divided, so I’d say the council is between a rock and a hard place.”

    there were 79 in the doomsday book

    and there are 80 now

    they haven’t been a problem for all that time

    now they are

    does that say something about the goats

    or the people? :wtf_beard

    FFS these people live in the fucking countryside and then moan about animals

    this seems to be an English thing, moaning and whinging like this

    I deliberately say English because I’ve noticed the Welsh and Scots are a lot more pragmatic about this sort of situation.

    When I was at dragonmoot in Tredegar the hill sheep had got in someones garden and were nibbling at some shubbery – none of the locals seemed particularly bothered – and when the Scots crofters became aware of the number of big cats they said they didn’t mind them and didn’t want the old bill and environment ministries taking any action as even if they did eat sheep they expected to lose a few sheep anyway due to falling off mountains, traffic collissions and whatever other mishaps befall sheep..

    yet in South Oxfordshire people complained because ducks were quacking on the pond and had them taken away.

    why don’t these people just fuck off to the city; then they can listen to the sounds opf car alarms, emergency service sirens, stuff being pelted at their windows by the local chavs and the sound of domestic violence next door – perhaps the odd gunshot (then again the last two are familiar sounds in the countryside) perhaps maybe they’ll appreciate those goats a bit more.

    it does seem like the world has gone mad

    Some residents want to get rid of the goats claiming they are destructive, while others say they should stay.

    they are goats

    it’s not up to you or me

    make a fence if your garden is precious

    that’s what opposable thumbs are for

    globalloon wrote:
    it does seem like the world has gone mad

    they are goats

    it’s not up to you or me

    make a fence if your garden is precious

    that’s what opposable thumbs are for

    or they can fuck off to Bristol. I don’t think there are any goats there. (apart from Bristol Zoo and the vet. colleges etc)

    absolutely mental. the local residents claim the goats are destructive…did they build a whole town? roads? cars? no, i didn’t think so…how any human thinks it can point the finger at another species and shout “destruction” is beyond insanity…

    ..fucking humans eh!?

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