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  • Hi there,
    I have a strange question that i cant find the answer for. I took Tramadol/Zydol for around 7 months for back pain, ever since i stopped taking it i cannot get the effects of alcohol e.g the buzz, euphoria.
    please note it is NOT a tolerance issue, i can drink and drink until im sick and not feel anything. (it was just to test how much i could drink/prove it wasnt tolerance)
    i have been in abstinence from Tramadol for about a year now, im really worried im permanently damaged. any help or ideas why this is happening?
    thank you

    Never mind.

    You mean alcohol has zero cognitive effect or you just don’t get any pleasure? You say you can drink until you are sick so it;s still being processed but I have never heard of anything like that. Very rare cases of extreme metabolisms have been known to process alcohol almost as quickly as it can be drank but that is incredibly rare and almost certainly not something that just develops.

    @Requiem 598933 wrote:

    You mean alcohol has zero cognitive effect or you just don’t get any pleasure? You say you can drink until you are sick so it;s still being processed but I have never heard of anything like that. Very rare cases of extreme metabolisms have been known to process alcohol almost as quickly as it can be drank but that is incredibly rare and almost certainly not something that just develops.

    thanks for the reply. i’m a little wobbly on my feet, but mentally im fine, theres no pleasure. before i ever took tramadol, alcohol was so pleasurable, relaxing etc. now its dull and im worried i have brain damage or something?

    So it does still have some effect just not the one you are used to. I’ve read of opiate addiction , and maybe other drugs of dependance, causing changes to how the brain drives pleasure but have no recollection of ever hearing of anything like this.

    The fact you were on tramadol for such a short amount of time makes it highly unlikely to be the cause. Millions of people use opiates far more regularly and for longer with no brain issues like actual physical detriation or internal damage of any concern (alcohol can cause massive damage to the brain however and long term alcoholics can have damage as bad as the worst alzheimers patients), so again that is unlikely.

    I can’t answer your question with a definite answer but am confident the tramadol isn’t to blame. I can say pushing more alshol down you to try get there still has the potential to kill you whether ot has a major physhical effect on you.

    I would actually consi9der seeing a doctor as this may be the result of something far different but a proper medical opinion would be good because this doesn’t just happen, and if/when it does it must be very rare.

    @Requiem 598939 wrote:

    So it does still have some effect just not the one you are used to. I’ve read of opiate addiction , and maybe other drugs of dependance, causing changes to how the brain drives pleasure but have no recollection of ever hearing of anything like this. The fact you were on tramadol for such a short amount of time makes it highly unlikely to be the cause. Millions of people use opiates far more regularly and for longer with no brain issues like actual physical detriation or internal damage of any concern (alcohol can cause massive damage to the brain however and long term alcoholics can have damage as bad as the worst alzheimers patients), so again that is unlikely.I can’t answer your question with a definite answer but am confident the tramadol isn’t to blame. I can say pushing more alshol down you to try get there still has the potential to kill you whether ot has a major physhical effect on you. I would actually consi9der seeing a doctor as this may be the result of something far different but a proper medical opinion would be good because this doesn’t just happen, and if/when it does it must be very rare.

    thank you, truly appreciate your thoughts. i have actually seen a doctor who also had no answers and found it strange. i certainly wont drink a whole bottle of vodka trying to chase a buzz that isnt there, that would be pure stupidity. i know its not tolerance.i know of one person who had a similar problem but it wasnt tramadol or opiates, it was a sleeping pill called Ambien. he had the same reaction and after a long period of abstinence from the drug alcohol started to work again.i think it could be desensitization of certain receptors in the brain that take time to become sensitive again, just my theory, im just hoping im not damaged for life

    Well your theory is pretty much the same as mine. I wouldn’t be surpised if cocaine abuse would do the same but again have never heard of anything as extreme as this and again your use was not by ajy means prolonged or excessive..

    Have there been any other changes at all that you have noticed?

    @Requiem 598943 wrote:

    Well your theory is pretty much the same as mine. I wouldn’t be surpised if cocaine abuse would do the same but again have never heard of anything as extreme as this and again your use was not by ajy means prolonged or excessive..

    Have there been any other changes at all that you have noticed?

    i only used tramadol ONCE a day, usually in the evening after work, the back pain was bad.

    no changes at all, i read about depression, anxiety, problems with sex (erections, no sex drive) lethargy etc after usage. none of those apply to me, i didnt even have withdrawal symptoms.

    its very strange that the only thing thats happened is i cant enjoy my beers anymore. the doctor did mention to me it can 2 years for the brain to recover in some cases, something about homeostasis aswell

    That use is as non existant as it’s close to be while taking it. There is almost zero chance that could be the case.

    @Requiem 598947 wrote:

    That use is as non existant as it’s close to be while taking it. There is almost zero chance that could be the case.

    i respectfully dissagree, my reason being i was fine before i ever touched tramadol, it only started after my usage. i never took any other drugs during that time. im not sure i will get the answers, im just hoping in time i will recover. thats the only thing i can do right, give it time?

    No I mean you couldn’t have taken any less painkillers. 1 dose a day when the vast majority of cases would be redosed at least again every day maybe more. If you consider the amount you took and for how long and compare it to the millions of other who use this and stringer opiates more frequently for longer your case is still as far as anyone has been able to tell non existant. Of course taking even the smallest amount of something is more than taking none of something but you have to also put that something into perspective against the norm.

    Some people have been known to have extreme reactions to even the safest things that almost no other human history has been but a genetic anomaly can cause that, people have been born ellergic to sunlight. I’m not saying it isn’t possible, just that the likelyhodd is incredibly small.

    @Requiem 598949 wrote:

    No I mean you couldn’t have taken any less painkillers. 1 dose a day when the vast majority of cases would be redosed at least again every day maybe more. If you consider the amount you took and for how long and compare it to the millions of other who use this and stringer opiates more frequently for longer your case is still as far as anyone has been able to tell non existant. Of course taking even the smallest amount of something is more than taking none of something but you have to also put that something into perspective against the norm.Some people have been known to have extreme reactions to even the safest things that almost no other human history has been but a genetic anomaly can cause that, people have been born ellergic to sunlight. I’m not saying it isn’t possible, just that the likelyhodd is incredibly small.

    then that makes me even more confused by whats happened. but i know its not ‘all in my head’ like all my friends keep telling me, im not sure what do to? but i appreciate what you are saying. maybe i am in that incredibly small category?

    With alcohol it is literally in your head, it’s the effect of alcohol in the brain. I’m not saying you’re imaging it mate, not even close. You say you still get other effects that do effect your body, thinkl you mentioned you stumbled or something so it is being absorebed and going round the body. It could be that the alcohol is not being processed properly in the lives, not reACHIng the right parts of the brain, the receptors could be damaged etc.

    When did it start, you’re obviously saying not before the tramadol so was it during or after? If it was after, how long after.

    What I talked about in the 1st few posts about some changes in the brains of addicts I was talking hardcore addicts, like when I mentioned the brains of long term alcoholics I did n’t mean that aunt who has a sherry at christmas.

    i really don’t know what to tell you, seems to be a weird situation, never really experienced this just stopped drinking because of prescribed medications, this is weird, I’ll think on it but alcohol and opiates don’t really bomb the same receptors and I know/knew herion addicts who love/loved to drink.

    Tramadol has some norepinephrine and serotonin effects so I guess that could be messing with you the way stims can mess with alcohol in the long term, but this explaniation doesn’t make a ton of sense.

    could be some complex change between the interactions of neurotransmitters but that’s too complicated to try to explain.

    really don’t know mate, give it 2 years I guess, I’ve heard that beforein regards to psychotic breaks and the like but you don’t fall in any catagory of folks who that is really a valid explanation, homostasis is only applicable if you go far outside the norm which you haven’t

    Seems to only be specific parts of the brain it has affected cos other symptoms of alcohol are present. Maybe try asking at bluelight or drugs-forum where they know a hell of a lot more specific scientific information about these things.

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