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  • hit me up at —>trigerzark2@hotmail.com<—- if u want to learn to make lsd. keep in mind its an extensive process that'll take about a month to make.

    please only contact me if ur serious

    OK mate, you obviously don’t know how to make LSD then cos every chemist who has synthesized it says the same.

    Why do people keep presenting LSD synthesis as something bordering on wizardry? You don’t need a pHd in chemistry to do it, you need the ability to follow instructions, familiarity with labware and a basic understanding of lab techniques (filtration, crystallization, oil/ice baths, working under an inert atmosphere and vacuum, chromatography, etc.). Shulgin’s synthesis is as straightforward as it gets. You could teach it to someone with 0 chemistry background in a couple of hours.

    The only real issue with it is obtaining the ergotamine tartrate used, which is more of a logistical issue than a chemistry issue. Of course, if you decide to synthesize it from scratch or extract it from raw ergot the whole thing becomes a good deal more complicated, but if you have access to it in a pure form (I imagine it’s difficult in the USA, but my country only regulates import/export and not distribution within the country, and distributors within the country exist) you’re all set.

    Even failing that, if you have connections with physicians that can prescribe you medicine containing it (Cafergot, Migergot, Ergomar, just to name a few) you’re set. In that case you’d still need to extract it from the medicine, but that’s still far simpler than cultivating ergot and extracting from that.

    Hey, nice post. I get the impression that the synthesus is so difficult by reading from those who have the means and ability to perform the synthesis,. People like bear and Nick Sand. Never mind the atual synthesis, where are you proposing to obtain enough ergotamine tartrate to even get started? You ain’t gonna be growing your own ergot that’s for sure.

    If you have ergotamine tartrate yeah its straight forward enough but I don’t have an ergotamine tartrate connection, meaning I’d have to to the backwards LSA to LSD synth after extracting the LSA, no thank you.

    The synthesis is available onlin, along with the sunthesis of most other psychoactive componds, yet there is barely any proper LSD on the planet. There’s an abundance of other psychoactive compounds available and I’m gonna say that much of this is down to the fact that the synthesis of LSD IS FUCKING HARD. I love seeing these posts saying it’s not sorcery and so on and so forth. You’re all of course exactly right. It’s simple chemistry. All you need are the chemicals and the equipment. That is if you don’t include the years of experience needed to do it safely, the years of studying to understand each step of the reaction process and therefore be able to ascertain if the synth is proceeding correctly or not and how to correct if it isn’t and also the extrememly expensive equipment needed ro perform the final analysis of the crystal.

    Again, the only real issue worth considering is how to get precursor. The equipment will run you a couple thousand dollars, which is really nothing in the grand scheme of things, considering how much you can profit off a successful synthesis. The synthesis itself is only marginally harder than something like MDMA, the precursors for both are schedule I in the USA, and all the other chemicals involved are easy to obtain or synthesize. Yet they’re treated completely differently. If you want to synthesize MDMA, everyone is helpful and encouraging, but the moment you mention LSD all you get is “forget it bruh, it’s wizardry, you need 8 pHds, 12 eons of experience and a magical wish-granting unicorn”.

    Can you do it in your kitchen without proper gear and experience with chemistry? No. Is the precursor easy to obtain? No. Should you do it without understanding the dangers associated with the chemicals and procedures involved? No. If you can clear those hurdles however, it’s easy. And by “experience with chemistry” I don’t mean 20 years of formal education either, any wannabe chemist with the proper motivation and determination can learn the required practical skills and theory in a couple of weeks of serious study using e-books and videos. This is the Internet era, it’s not 1970 where your only method of learning stuff like this was indeed a collage education.

    When comparing it with something like MDMA, the precursors are equally difficult to obtain, the equipment involved is pretty much the same, the level of difficulty for the synthesis itself is pretty close, yet they’re treated completely differently. Did you stop to consider that the reason for LSD being so rare when compared to MDMA is precisely because of the difference in treatment despite the comparable level of difficulty? What do you expect will happen if everyone that tries to learn about LSD synthesis is told pretty much “forget it, it’s impossible” from the get-go? They’ll either give up entirely or make something else, which in turn contributes to your statistics and relative rarity of LSD.

    If we ever hope to improve the situation, the process needs to be demystified instead of treated like sorcery, and people need to be provided with actual information instead of being told to give up the moment they mention it. Even if only a small percentage of the people interested attempt it and succeed, it’s still better than no one even attempting it in the first place. With that attitude it can only become more and more rare, and possibly disappear entirely.

    Right, so the only difficulty is either getting to the jungle, chopping trees down, processing and distilling in the case of MDMA. and for LSD you just need to cultivate ergot on wheat. Cultivate a parasitic fungus that will fuck with your brain if any spores are alllowed to get near it on top of being very gard to grow. So maybe we don’t need chemistry phd, we now need a fucking botanst or something.

    It’s not the spores that are toxic, it’s the sclerotium, and that’s only toxic when ingested. So unless you plan to eat the ergot, the toxicity isn’t an issue. Cultivating it would indeed be a pain in the ass, but definitely the best way to get it in bulk and without leaving any kind of paper trail.

    But if you don’t want to cultivate it, there are still ways to get it. Get to know someone who’s already cultivating or processing rye, wheat or barley, buy the ergot off them. They have to separate it from their crops anyway due to its toxicity, and I imagine it’s usually just thrown away. I’m sure they’d be more than happy to get paid for something they usually discard.

    If you’re not in the USA and therefore have slightly more lax laws, you may be able obtain the ergotamine tartrate directly from a chemical/pharma supplier in your country, or through universities under the guise of “research”. If you have connections in one of these companies or universities, even better. You could even flat-out order it from Chinese manufacturers who don’t give a fuck who they’re selling to as long as they’re paid. The only issue then is getting it across the border, which is easier than it sounds considering I managed to order and receive all kinds of much bulkier drugs from Silk Road when it was still running. If I could safely receive drugs via mail, I don’t see an issue in doing the same with precursors. If anything, it’s easier.

    Failing that, you could get a prescription for Cafergot or Migergot for migraines, especially if you know a physician or psychiatrist. This would also be a pain in the ass because each pill only has 2 mg of ergotamine tartrate and you’d have to separate it from the caffeine in case of Cafergot, but it’s still a source, especially if you can get the prescriptions for multiple people.

    It’s definitely a problem, but nothing insurmountable. Where there’s a will, there is a way 🙂

    Yes that’s all well and good mate but every single step of the LSD productions journey is hard. The ergot it hard to cultivate, if compared to the difficulty in cultivating other similar gthings.

    The chemistry IS HARD. Yes, at the end of the day it’s just organic chemistry and by no means even close to the most difficult synthesis known to man. But as far as psychoactive compounds p[eople are interested in, it stands up there. Ypou have te fact that certain energies of electromagnetic radiation destroy it so you have added complexity there making it obviously more cmplex/harder than equivalent compounds. 1 billion unqualified chemists can tell me LSD is as easy to make as they like. When David Nicholls gives a score out of 10 for the difficulty I’ll maybe give that some credence.

    @tryptameanie 973777 wrote:

    Ypou have te fact that certain energies of electromagnetic radiation destroy it so you have added complexity there making it obviously more cmplex/harder than equivalent compounds.

    any sources on what wavelengths/frequencies? Presumably not even very strong radiation at medium frequencies / wavelength 199/200 metres; as it didn’t affect the quality of what the crew on board Radio Caroline and similar pirate radio vessels of that era had access to :laugh_at:

    it is also “not that hard” to obtain the components and equipment required build radio transmitters whether or not you have a license to operate them. The circuit diagrams and construction techniques are all online (you may need to be able to understand Dutch to find the best ones) but doing so in a way that doesn’t cause nuisance or harm to others (such as interference) isn’t so simple.

    There is a link here; 30 years ago one of the former engineers from Radio Caroline who ended up working at the BBC Receiving station (near Caversham – today its just a building full of remote controlled equipment) told me the synthesis for LSD was inside a book that sat in the reference section at Reading University. (It is indeed there), and a lot of it was processed in Reading during the 1970s.

    More recently an electronics Professor from the Cambridge area I knew (who has sadly passed away) also confirmed that there was loads in Cambridge during the late 60s/early 70s.

    Neither of them actually took the stuff as their jobs were too demanding; the chap from Cambridge had also seen a good friend called Syd (some here might recognise the name) suffer mental health problems from the stuff (they used to play electric guitar together as well as build the amplifiers and effects units).

    In the 1980s when I read the synth (I didn’t understand much of it and would not today) the chap from Reading who had been involved in the LSD distribution was only just let out of prison..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Julie

    Infra-red end of the spectrum GL, well known and it reaches into the visible part of the spectrum. Is a well known problem innboth the production, storage and handling of LSD -25. There’s rare fotage on youtube I’ll try find of Nick Snads when working at the Brotherhoods lab working in strange lighting conditioms. If you look at the Dirty Pictures documentary on Shulgin, in Nichols lab you see LSD beeing produced, notice the lighting (tyoward the ultra-violet end of the spectrum).

    The video clips will be a bit harder to find but the LSD-25 synthesis is all over and here’s the one from TIHKAL.

    https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml

    Is documented in there.

    just had a look at that – nearly every other chemical used in the various synths other than ergotamine is on some sort of EU watch list as well. This isn’t even because they are drugs precursors (they have or had many other legitimate uses).

    They are all dangerous / unpleasant especially if let into the environment by accident or residues –
    dumped down a public drain. I regularly read NL news reports about the Brandweer and specialist teams being called out to deal with random leftover chemicals being dumped from a suspected drugs lab, or discovering hoards of these in random places (often garages near housing areas) destined for this use.

    My late father worked with a lot of those same solvents and some others in a research lab the petrochemicals industry -to be fair his employer did have all the fume cupboards, safety kit etc available but not all the dangers were that well known; and some of the experiments he did were not without risk (such as quite deliberately heating up solvents, oil etc until it flashed over to a nearby flame) and in those days one precaution was to line the entire fume cupboard (and often every wall in the lab) with asbest sheets.

    He even used to bring some of the stuff home (at least not 200l drums though), particularly 1-1-1-tricholorethane – this stuff (once widely found in correction fluid, now banned due to environment risk) made me as popular at high school as todays teenage drug users :laugh_at: although “real drugs” were probably less unhealthy.

    Although he was a notorious smoker (he only stopped/calmed down after I took up the habit and he also became too unwell to smoke) and legally prescribed a huge amount of benzos (since the 1970s) it was most likely exposure to the industrial chemicals (added to the stress of raising two kids at the height of the Thatcher era) which finished him off by his late 50s (after some very nasty illnesses).

    BTW a lot of Dad’s friends were hippies, bikers, Irish builders etc and he probably could easily have made acid if he so wanted but the reality worldwide is most people with those science skills are normally rewarded with secure employment and end up with home/family responsibilities so don’t want to risk going to prison (especially as at least some of the folk he knew might have through Op Julie).

    Another amzing thing about pure LSD crystal is tha it has the property of Piezoluminescence. Tap a vialmij the dark and it emits photons.

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