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February 7, 2007 at 9:15 pm

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MisterDuck

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basically i can get hold of pills in my area (york) with a little lookin around. people are always sayin that pills are shit quality and that noone knows what is in em – but i cant check without a kit.

i wanna experience all the positives of mdma. i could try some pills, but after readin the kangaroo pill thread it seems risky if i dont know what is in them.

is buying pills from a dealer known by a friend (who also doesnt know what is in them, but seems to like them) relatively safe? even if they dont have mdma in them, what are the chances it will be something harmful?

fuck, they really should legalize and regulate this shit.

cheers, boothy
February 8, 2007 at 5:03 pm

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skinyourein

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Depends what ya class as harmful.i mean if ya reckon pills laced with ket are bad that’s one thing but if you’re talking about em being laced with more sinister things that could have physical repercussions that’s another. ecstacy tabs contain very little MDMA.thet’re more likely to contain chemicals from the same family such as MDA.It’s highly unlikely that they wiil have been cut with anything horrific.the last thing dealers want is deaths that can and will be traced back to them. i read an article years ago about heroin that was trying to find out what it had been cut with, i mean you hear allsorts of horror stories like broken glass and brick dust.They aquired 100 “samples” and tested them.their findings were that the majority were cut with non harmfull substances to bulk it out ie dextrose blah blah blah.not one grain of brickdust in any sample.i reckon that whatever you consume there’s a level of risk involved it’s for you to decide if you’re willing to take that chance
February 8, 2007 at 6:04 pm

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SD

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Although I did cook up once and there was a scum of brick dust left around the spoon…:yakk:
February 8, 2007 at 6:19 pm

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General Lighting

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I think a lot of pills now contain piperazines (either BZP/TFMPP mixture or MCPP);

IMO this is a result of a number of linked issues..
- increasingly effective enforcement and clampdowns on MDMA supply routes (“function creep” from anti-terrorist operations IMO),
- the piperazine-based “legal highs” increasingly being restricted in many jurisdictions worldwide
- the anomaly that even so, in most jurisdictons piperazines have a lower classification than MDMA
the factories making BZP etc for “legal highs” aren’t simply gonna give in and close down, so these substances are replacing MDMA in illicit pills, to preserve profits to dealers and reduce risks.

Another example of how the prohbitionists are prepared to increase risks to users as they stubbornly persist with their anti-drugs ethos…
February 8, 2007 at 8:46 pm

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Stevie_big_words

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mate it’s well unlikely theres gonna be anything like syanide in them. you may jus get some that are cut wit speed or ket or summin but nothing that would properly fuck u up if u took it by itself, talking purely from my own expirences with pills and i’ve had a few. if ur real worried tho about them then jus get some mud, a better choice in my eyes anyways!
February 8, 2007 at 8:53 pm

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General Lighting

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Stevie is right -no dealer wants to actually kill their punters but there do appear to be a lot of piperazine based “pills” turning up though (their effects often being mistaken for “speed”)…. then at the same time there are good ones, making it even more of a lottery!

The issue with the kangaroos was ironicaly that they were very good pills and that people took more than one or two expecting the usual “shit buzz”

might be worth getting a testing kit anyway…
February 8, 2007 at 10:46 pm

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MisterDuck

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Stevie_big_words wrote:

mate it’s well unlikely theres gonna be anything like syanide in them. you may jus get some that are cut wit speed or ket or summin but nothing that would properly fuck u up if u took it by itself, talking purely from my own expirences with pills and i’ve had a few. if ur real worried tho about them then jus get some mud, a better choice in my eyes anyways!

there aint any mandy anywhere that i can find, otherwise i’d be straight on it!

it seems like drugs are gettin’ shitter and shitter. fuckin prohibition, all it does is do more harm than good!
February 9, 2007 at 12:11 am

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noname

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You can get testing kits here

Not too expensive, and it is free shipping. If everyone gets these, maybe we can get the quality back to something half decent… :bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl

They have tests for other stuff too, and the testing kits are 100% legal.
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