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    We are 98.77% chimpanzee

    Recent advances in the study of the human and the chimpanzee genome have revealed just how close the two species are. Differences at the level of the DNA are as low as 1.23%. In other words, we are 98.77% chimpanzee. The genomic difference between the two species is comparable to that between horses and zebras, who differ by about 1.5%.

    Tetsuro Matsuzawa — Kyoto University

    Dont see any chimpanzees working out they are 1.33% human………

    You must have seen him on that BBC documentary the other day?

    BBC iPlayer – Super Smart Animals: Episode 1

    He’s been trained to memorise a sequence of numbers that flash up on a touchscreen for a fraction of a second and recall them. I think he could do something like 10 numbers in 0.06s, which was a lot, lot better than the BBC journalist could manage! So at least in one respect, he’s actually more intelligent than humans! It really makes you think about just how much of our ‘intelligence’ is actually down to the vast store of information that the human race has built up and recorded over its existence (none of us invented the wheel, or printing, or the internal combustion engine), rather than any innate mental ability.

    @Bassfink 467144 wrote:

    Dont see any chimpanzees working out they are 1.33% human………

    That’s cos they are 98.77% human. 😉

    We kick their arses at abstract thought though, which is ultimately what allows us to find patterns in the universe, figure out what’s really going on, and create solutions to problems. I would consider that a far more fitting measure of intelligence than ability to remember/reproduce information.

    @Clusterfrog 467235 wrote:

    We kick their arses at abstract thought though, which is ultimately what allows us to find patterns in the universe, figure out what’s really going on, and create solutions to problems. I would consider that a far more fitting measure of intelligence than ability to remember/reproduce information.

    Not necessarily. They did another experiment at that Japanese lab where they gave each chimp a long plastic tube with a peanut in (too deep for them to reach). They had to figure out that to get to the peanut they had to fill up the tube with water from their drinking tap and float the peanut to the surface. They all managed it pretty quickly. It was a problem-solving exercise that required abstract thought.

    @cheeseweasel 467241 wrote:

    Not necessarily. They did another experiment at that Japanese lab where they gave each chimp a long plastic tube with a peanut in (too deep for them to reach). They had to figure out that to get to the peanut they had to fill up the tube with water from their drinking tap and float the peanut to the surface. They all managed it pretty quickly. It was a problem-solving exercise that required abstract thought.

    the crow family are very good at smiler exorcizes.

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    @DaftFader 467244 wrote:

    the crow family are very good at a similer excersize.

    Yep, they had a jay on that programme too doing pretty much the same thing.

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    @cheeseweasel 467241 wrote:

    Not necessarily. They did another experiment at that Japanese lab where they gave each chimp a long plastic tube with a peanut in (too deep for them to reach). They had to figure out that to get to the peanut they had to fill up the tube with water from their drinking tap and float the peanut to the surface. They all managed it pretty quickly. It was a problem-solving exercise that required abstract thought.

    Yes but I wasn’t implying they had no abstract thought at all, just that we kick their arses at it. You wouldn’t catch a chimpanzee explaining something to a young chimpanzee through use of an analogy, or pondering deep scientific and philosophical questions. Attempts to communicate through sign language with them have failed for this reason, their thinking is too concrete to deal with abstract words that you use to build sentences.

    Some animals are surprisingly intelligent, but humans are can be phenomenally intelligent. What we’ve learned as a species is quite staggering.

    I think our ability to communicate is mainly what sets us apart, more than our non-verbal reasoning skills (the kind of thing classically thought of as ‘intelligence’). A chimp lacks the necessary vocabulary to explain something using an analogy, or ponder philisophical questions. We tend to think in words after all – imagine how differently we’d think if we didn’t have the constant voice of our thoughts in our heads.

    I agree that what we’ve learned as a species is staggering, but I think that’s because over tens of thousands of years of civilisation various discoveries have been gradually added to the pool of scientific knowledge that’s been passed down from generation to generation. We take things like the wheel for granted, but I doubt that any of us would have thought to invent it if we’d been brought up outside of civilisation. As it happens, we’re brought up in a society where cars, computers and an efficient system of educating us about such things already exist.

    Not saying that chimps are smarter than us, but it doesn’t surprise me to read that we’re so genetically similar.

    to be honest, I think some people are 100% chimpanzee round my wasys : /

    eindelijk heb ik de songteksten voor dit liedje gevonden!

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    Vader Abraham is basically singing the same as in this thread, but in Dutch !

    Apen, die houden van bananen
    Ze pellen apennootjes
    En klimmen in de bomen (bomen)
    Apen, daar kun je echt mee lachen
    Ze hebben leuke ogen
    Een kind wil er van dromen (dromen)

    Apen, die hebben grote handen
    Ze houden ook van dansen
    En grote oude banden (banden)
    Apen, ze kunnen heel ver springen
    En houden ook van zingen
    Als jij en ik

    Apen, die houden van het circus
    En kunnen ook jongleren
    En heel veel balanceren
    Apen, ze kunnen bijna praten
    Je hebt ze in alle maten
    Als jij en ik

    Apen, die lachen om de mensen
    En mensen om de apen
    Is dat niet om te gillen (gillen)
    Apen, die leven net als dieren
    Om mensen te plezieren
    Maar ik zie geen verschillen (verschillen)

    Apen ze hebben ook 2 armen
    Ze kunnen je omarmen
    En ook van iemand houen (houen)
    Apen, die kennen 1000 liedjes
    En hebben ook verdrietjes
    Als jij en ik

    Apen, je kunt ze alles leren
    Je moet het maar proberen
    Ze lopen zonder kleren (kleren)
    Apen, die zijn toch net als mensen
    Ze kijken in de spiegel
    Als jij en ik

    This reminds me that I have put down a visit to Monkey World in Dorset on my to do list……..

    Indeed our knowledge compounds over time but each generation has to be intelligent enough to understand it and develop it further. There’s a reason that chimps have not developed their own civilisation or even been able to integrate with ours, and its not just down to an inability to communicate.

    Chimps may share 98% of our DNA but they only have about 38% the number or brain cells we do, and the number of neural connections they have drops by orders of magnitude (we have more than the number of atoms in the universe). They don’t even come close to our mental capacity.

    Just a few genes can make a big big difference.

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