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  • Lady Luck, that story you are on about of one of your freinds has been made into a movie “Party Monster”,. i think it was mentioned earlier in the thread. Story of Michael Alig a new york nobody who became famouse for getting off his face basically. intresting story and tells some funny Ketamin tales and does quite a good job of describing some of its affects. Although the book is written from a drag queens point of veiw and gets a bit lahh de dahhh ;oP

    My Question is…

    Ive checked a few of the links that have been posted about Ketamin etc and some say its being used to combat the effects of heroin addiction or alcohole addiction, also about a guy used it once a week for 2 years and did notice a slight addiction but was able to cope etc etc

    But how are these guys administering the drug when they test it??? Im assuming the sites are set up by proffesionals and the tests they do are done with medical supervison (if you get my meaning // are they actually doctors etc?)

    Are they heating the stuff in a pan over a camping stove and then snorting great white fluffy linez up thier nose??? If they are proffesionals I doubt it very much. Ive been around people who use it every day and they are pretty zombified walking round with no shame of that dirty great POLO protruding from thier nose.

    Ive been told too that when you get the trickle down your throat to spit out any flegm coz it aint good for your stomach?? I wouldnt normally do this and would get well fooked but ide always get the sensation that the stuff was fizzing all down my throat?? though maybe thats just me though tripping ma tits off…lol anyways over the summer i had well bad hayfever so the stuff coming out of my nose after it had gone in wasnt an option but i sort of found the whole thing alot nicer, more fluffy, i was able to get up and move around (with a walking stick) and have some pretty amzing visuals, not just the in ya head zonked on the floor sort of trip i was used to.

    anyways ive ranted enough

    peace out party ppl!!

    PsyMon

    Without getting too technical, all I can say is if you swallow ket after snorting it can make you vomit or feel ill – someone i know blows his nose as he starts to come up off it so he doesnt retch his guts up!

    for some decent information on k go to http://www.erowid.com there is also lots of info on pretty much any other drug you like too.

    Ketamine is great. Make sure you are in a safe place and sheltered from any harm. Be sure to be with people you trust. As to it’s dangers? I’m sorry but I couldn’t tell you. It kills brain cells. 😛

    I wish I could help out a little more. Heh…

    Cheers for the reply , um nothing else really to say except if you’re ever Kent and are after K…

    last months blackpoppy had an ok articl on K, but I can’t seem to find the web site may not yet be linked?

    As a “party” drug…give it up. Lame and potentially harmful, like getting some bad beef at the grocers. Every time I am at a gig, event, club and stummble over some passed out K-drop-out, I like to drag them to the sidelines so the Folk who came to Experience the VIBE, LOVE, and DANCE GROOVE can get on with some serious buisiness…

    To each his/her own, but get a grip. If you love the music, Stay Awake to Experience it! Nothing like having a K-Zombie die at an event or party and fuck it for the rest. Stay home and gel. WEAK!
    LOVE,

    A long time user of psychoactive substances who woke up to smell the Universe,
    Jon E Why… Techno fan for 15 years

    Ket will have differing effects and duration depending on methods of injestion, snorting comes on quicker and dosen’t last as long. Many people report problems when eating K, as an anasthetic if you take a lot it will make you puke, thats why they tell you not to eat before an operation, its a natural reflex to puke if you get near unconciousness (to expell poisons) this is why K is very dangerous if taken with depressant drugs like alcohol, heroin, downers etc unless you are very sure of your personal tolerances.

    as for long term use, regular users (particuarily heavy ones) can develop psycosis and gradually withdraw from reality, they are after all living in an artifical reality (the K hole) fantasy and reality become harder and harder to differentiate and denial is commonplace. There will be serious long term concequences to mental health for long term heavy users. as someone who has first taken K for years then worked in drug treatment I know K is a nasty fuck if you develop a dependance, go easy and take regular breaks, if you are using most days you are heading for trouble.

    The sad thing with K is its so sneaky a lot of people don’t even know they are in trouble untill their mental health deterioates so far that ist an uphill battle.:(

    why’s a K-head like a laxative?………………..Cuz if the sight of em don’t make ya shit yerself within a couple minutes they’ll bore the shit outta ya!!! Nuff said! Oh and P.S. people usta dance not fall over!

    perhaps one reason k is more popular nowadays (apart from the relative lack of risk to the dealing networks) is because parties have changed a lot? people are often zombies because they’ve taken bare drugs all night and not just K!

    parties are still good but in London and the SE UK the “free love” atmosphere is long gone.

    nowadays a gurning pillhead is liable to incur ridicule (for being too off it) if not actual threats of violence for being “too friendly” with someones girlfriend / boyfriend and chatting to complete strangers is not as common due to stuff like this and (justifiable) worries over muggers etc..

    people attend parties in groups of friends and often stay with them throughout the events – anyone who attends a party without a group of people is often considered to be a potential robber or even CID! [UK detectives]

    if I take pills (which is rare these days) I now find myself actually fighting any loved-up feelings and a lot of my friends seem to be doing the same.. i’m not a moody rude boy by any means but don’t want people to try to take advantage or make a fool of myself…..

    so perhaps its not surprising people go for stuff like K which in smaller doses (before the hole) gives you a “manageable euphoria in a nasty urban landscape” which isn’t that bad for parties nowadays..

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    Pretty sure IV ket use’ll fuck ya, better to go IM, slowly injecting over the period of a few minutes or your leg will ache for weeks.

    Peace

    To many people though the use of needles is a trip down the slippery slope (once you will do it for one substance easy to turn to others) and not practical (in fact HIGHLY discouraged) at most of the parties I go to!

    my friend who committed suicide following ket use had become a heavy user of all drugs through constant ket use and then the use of needles 🙁

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    I don’t think that K is the biggest problem – its more the vibe in London these days everyone is becoming angry and paranoid; even peopel who start out with idealistic views find themselves being targeted by robbers or other violent people and them they start becoming less welcoming – sometimes the “zombie” face is a guard so muggers don’t try and talk to you etc (or for girls they don’t get sleazy blokes trying it on which seems to be more and more commonplace these days in cities 😡 )

    the days of people with smiling faces happily talking about all sorts of stuff are sadly long gone (in London at least) but there are still good things happening at parties and they are still safer than commercial events – I think the decent people have a way of finding one another even when the party is becoming a warzone.

    someone attacked the decks and mixer at a party? thats well fucking harsh – I’ve heard stories like this but sort of not wanted to believe this sort of shit happens…

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    I’ve had a couple of lines of K in my time. I really don’t think a party is the time or place for it. More like on a big comfy sofa at the end of a good night out.

    Even so, it’s a bit shabby as communication goes out the window. And communication is what separates us from our simian cousins, after all.

    GL, I have to agree with your thoughts on angry and paranoid people, especially in London.

    A couple of years ago I spent some time in Chile, Bolivia and Argentina. Even in major cities such as Buenos Aires, during the total collapse of the economy, people were very friendly, helpful and hospitable. Asking for directions often lead to guided walks, long interesting conversations and even invitations to family meals!

    When I got back to England I was a bit lost in central London, trying to find my way back to a mate’s place. I asked numerous people for directions. People looked through or past me, pushed past me and ignored me. In the end I decided to do a little social experiment.

    I asked 10 people for directions to Fulham High Road (I was about half a mile away). 7 people ignored me completely. 2 were really helpful, but spoke almost no English. 1 tried to sell me crack.

    This really blew my mind. What a bunch of miserable pricks English people can be.

    sorry this post has nothing to do with K or parties.

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