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  • What does everyone think of the legal Ecstasy equivalents or ‘herbal highs’ such as Liquid C, Tatanka, Nxt Phase, E-booster and such? What are their effects and how do they compare to the real Mc Coy?:mobile_ph

    If you had ever taken the real thing you would never think of trying them. They cost shit loads of money and really don’t feel like the are jack. In my opinon the real thing is a lot better, cheaper and keeps you going longer than any of these so called alternatives…

    glittertrauma wrote:
    what does everyone think of legalised ‘herbal highs’ such as liquid c, tatanka, nxt phase, e-booster and stuff? do they really have as good an effect as the real mccoy?:mobile_ph

    Have you tried the Fastlane or Blue xtra (BZP Based) new zealand highs?

    I am bound to say this because I happen to sell them, but they really do work.

    Still good luck with your hunting, and there are some great books out there on the subject…

    I always think that because they are legal they wont work or else why wouldn’t be legal? Probably just me being paranoid about the government though…

    :alien_abd

    I think they work but aren’t as strong, Ive never felt affects from them personally but I didn’t try them until after I’d hammered the real thing too much if I’m honest.

    I have a friend though who doesn’t take illegal drugs other than just smoking weed who has tried them a few times and you would probably tell you that he felt a high. Something slightly more chatty and grinning and laughing than battered even though he enjoyed it.

    Having said that he’s more of a piss head and prefers gettin battered from £10’s worth of vodka rather than the legal 3s…

    Meltown wrote:
    i think they do work but there not very strong, ive neva felt affects off them but i didnt do them till after id hammered the real tings a bit,

    ive got a friend whos dnt do any thin but smoke buds, and hes tryed them a few times and you cud tell he was high off them – slightly more chatty grining and laughin a lot – not battered in any way but he enjoyed it
    hes more of a piss head tho and prefers gettin battered of £10’s worth of vodka rarther than 3 leagal uns

    The BZP based pills really do work, as long as people get the formula right !

    Seriously, send me your address via email and i will send you a couple of samples….

    Cheers,

    Mike

    Ps. would you prefer Speedy or E-FX party pills?

    mikeid22 wrote:
    The BZP based pills really do work, as long as people get the formula right !

    Seriously, send me your address via email and i will send you a couple of samples….

    Cheers,

    Mike

    Ps. would you prefer Speedy or E-FX party pills?

    Is that offer open to anyone?

    Steve

    :bigsmile:

    Is legal Ecstasy as good as the real thing? I’m refering to the likes of Trip2night and the rest… So are they better?


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      Here’s a good thread on the subject: Legal Highs?

      Hi guys,

      I just wanted to ask if anyone has had the chance to sample this legal high yet?

      I’ve had them mentioned to be by three people now, all very experienced drug uses, who claim they are fucking lethal! I’ve always been put off legal highs, but i’ve now realised illegality doesn’t necessarily mean weak. Take Salvia Divinorum, for example. When you ingest that efficiently, (butane torch lighter and water pipe holding it in) you trip as intensely as LSD, (just a shorter journey.

      Any way back to Jax. If anyone has experience of this, let us know.

      Babylon.

      London Underground Jax (Strong Pseudo X.T.C)

      transparent.giftransparent.giftransparent.giftransparent.gifThese new legal highs from London Underground were originally developed as a legal alternative to ecstasy.

      Jax (short for Union Jack, which is the symbol on the pill) are specifically formulated to manipulate your brain’s sensitivity to various naturally occurring chemicals, such as noradrenaline, serotonin and dopamine.

      Through use of ecstasy precursors, Jax closely mimics the feeling that you can achieve from a good clean E, (no other pills do this), however it is unlike E which achieves this effect by manipulating the chemical balance in your brain, leaving you depleted and depressed or even addicted.

      Jax are thought to cause an increased receptor affinity to those same chemicals, meaning that while the same high may occur your brain’s chemical balance remains unaltered, so no more Tuesday blues, no flat-feeling comedown and best of all no addiction or long-term damage.

      A word of warning however – Jax are aimed at the experienced clubber and were originally designed as a replacement to assist people coming off E. Jax are strong, very strong. If you weigh less than 70kg it is advised that you only take half a pill. Jax comes in packs of 2 and are designed for the second pill to be used a second top-up dose – DO NOT DOUBLE DROP! Jax are the original one-pill ecstasy replacement for those who seek more.

      These extra strength Jax contain one dose per pill, with 150mg benzylpiperazine and 75mg triflouromethylpiperazine. May act as a CNS stimulant, may cause mood elevation, elevated heart rate and short-term insomnia.

      It is recommended that you drink plenty of water when consuming Bolts. Avoid mixing with alcohol. Do not consume with any medicines, drugs, or other products containing BZP. Do not use if you have a heart or liver defect, high blood pressure or mental illness. Not suitable during pregnancy or for lactating mothers.

      Ingredients:

      150mg BZP, 75mg TFMPP, standardised nutmeg extract, synthetic equivalent of Piper nigrum extract, dicalcium phosphate, magnesium stearate.

      Value Pack:

      Buy 5 pills for the price of 4.

      havnt had the jax ones but ive had the stronger XXX ones they are fucking awesome 8 hours of brilliance… couple hours of feeling speedy and the ‘a bit’ like E’s for a few hours then everything got very trippy trippy trippy i recon get the XXX…. good fun, go clubbing. oh also ive heard the XXX ones described as feeling like 2c-i if you know what theat feels like.PeaceJack

      havnt had the jax ones but ive had the stronger XXX ones they are fucking awesome 8 hours of brilliance… couple hours of feeling speedy and the ‘a bit’ like E’s for a few hours then everything got very trippy trippy trippy i recon get the XXX….
      good fun, go clubbing.
      oh also ive heard the XXX ones described as feeling like 2c-i if you know what theat feels like.PeaceJack

      These Jax and XXX and all the london underground pills containing the pepper extracts, piperazine chemicals are being made illegal in December, due to their ‘abuse potential’ (they’ll still be legal in NZ) so the head shops and internet sources of these pills wont be renewing orders. 😥

      Everyonedoseit.com is already out of everything, people were buying the last yesterday. growhigh is out of xxx’s but still has a few 5 packs of jax etc.
      I found a web site, entheogenius.co.uk who still have many varieties including XXX’s on sale on the site, but haven’t called them to find out if they still actually have them in stock.
      It’s worth scouring sites on google, searching under entheogen, head shop and legal highs to find stores that still have some in stock. get em while you can.

      Hi Babylon – welcome to partyvibe – good to see another “local” person here (although I’ve only been in Ipswich since March!)

      Babylon wrote:
      These Jax and XXX and all the london underground pills containing the pepper extracts, piperazine chemicals are being made illegal in December, due to their ‘abuse potential’ (they’ll still be legal in NZ) so the head shops and internet sources of these pills wont be renewing orders. 😥

      yep – it was really crafty how the govt did it

      in 2002 the drugs laws were changed so a salt derived from another substance is also subject to restriction..

      piperazine is already on both the human and vet formularies as an anti-worming tablet.

      These have to be regulated by MHRA (MEdicines and Healthcare Regulatory Authority) – and thus so would any substances derived from piperazine..

      As none of these pep pils are registered with MHRA its illegal to sell them… also I think (but am not 100% sure) that piperazine could be a precursor for those nasty shark pills (which if this is the case it is where I bet a lot of the previously legitimate BZP could end up in :yakk::yakk:)

      another example of prohibition and the law making people less safe….

      London Underground, the makers of Jax, XXX etc have come up with a new ‘third generation’ pill called “Neuro Blasts”. I have no idea on the ingredients, however LU claim these contain no BZP thus getting round the changes in the law.:groucho:

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