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April 29, 2007 at 3:31 pm #708685DynamicDon’tPanic wrote:I don’t see how that works.
Herbal pill = XX amount of stimulation
E pill = XXX amount of stimulation
But that doesn’t mean that mixing half a herbal pill (= X) with most of an E (= XX) will give you (X + XX = ) XXX amount of stimulation, same as a complete E pill.
Their chemistry is different. At the end of the day you would be bringing in different chemicals together in one pill, which act different, which put pressure on different chemical systems in your body. If it’s “smooth” then it would be smooth because you’ve diminshed the effects of the Herbal pill by lowering its dose, and you’ve diminshed the effects of the E pill by lowering its dose, l reckon.
If it works then it works (it’s common practise to do it after all), but l don’t see how it would work or what the point in it is.
what are you getting at?
*in the nicest possible way*April 29, 2007 at 4:07 pm #708643Anonymous
It’s been cleared now, l thought someone was talking about mixing legal highs with E in the form of pills. I was trying to say that the resulting pill will have diminshed effects from both the legal high and the E because just mixing 2 diff. stimulants doesn’t mean that they add to each other, l would imagine that they go their own separate routes in stimulating you and ur adding lower doses of each to make up the full dose of the resulting tablet, so they are less intense etc etc.
I think dealers would do that, ya know, get 200 Es, add 200 caffeine pills, grind em all up , mix em and produce 300 new Es. But l reckon even if some of the E content has been replaced by caffeine and the result might even weigh more, it still won’t be as strong as the original E, and l don’t think the added caffeine would make up for it.
He said he wasn’t even on about that in the first place though.April 29, 2007 at 10:36 pm #708661
on a related point
mixing mdma and tfmpp does cause a significant enhancement of both substancesApril 29, 2007 at 10:47 pm #708644AnonymousApril 29, 2007 at 11:11 pm #708662DynamicDon’tPanic wrote:Gosh that’s weird. I suppose it could be something to do with making the liver busy, so it can’t get round to destroying everything flowing through it.
TFMPP – that’s one of those piperazines isn’t it.– Lists Viagra as a piperazine.
yeh, tfmpp is a piperazine
as i understand it, it increases your brain’s sensitivity to serotonin
so mixing it with mdma, which causes an increase in serotonin production, is silly, yet effectiveAugust 6, 2008 at 9:42 pm #708687raverbabyliz;32970 wrote:Hi everyone, I’ve been reading through these forums for a couple of weeks now and i must say i’ve found it all very interesting and helpful so thanks guys!
I’ve always wondered does anyone know how to make your own e’s, or has anyone tried doing it before?
I’m not a hardened drug dealer or anything like that, i would just like to try and make some for personal use cos i’m sick of constantly searching for pills and usually being dissapointed by crap ones. I’m not too worried about pill pressers etc, it doesnt have to look impressive, just some sort of powder etc would be fine.
I’ve heard it can be done easilly enough as long as you’ve got the right ingredients but i think there are limits on how/where you can buy these necessary ingredients, for obvious reasons, and many have to be imported from abroad. Does anyone have any more information that might help?
hey man jus find sum uppers n mix them but not alot of each if ther good enuf pilss ur guna b twacked n no crash its bom man give it a try!!!:crazy::crazy_druAugust 6, 2008 at 9:46 pm #708688
:crazy_dizUSE;32972 wrote:never came across home made pills, but i did get mashed at glasto with a bloke who called himself frink who had made his own MDMA (e) the process after that of cutting the powder and adding a bonding agent to help the pills stay together i have no idea. why you would want to cut and bond pure drugs i have no clue, but making your own madman is blatantly a quality idea. however. thebloke in question was a degree level chemistry student, and had a fair bit of strife getting the ingredients. its not something you could try as a hobby. so i would say its unlikely you will be successfull.
if you do make some tho, be sure to send me a sample batch. just to make sure its safe, you understand 😉
ur thinkin of mdm its new n homemade by a pharmicist its one hell of a rush it wont b around for another year. its hella expensive but so worth it highperformance xtc bom as hell man find it n giv it a try!!!June 3, 2009 at 7:47 am #708692June 3, 2009 at 8:21 am #708693
You guys can not be serious! Does anyone here have any idea on what they are talking about?
I know we might have some seious hardcore dealers and makers, but any chemist or at least chemistry H2 advance students?
To answer some of the question ecstasy is MDMA or, to give it the full chemical name 3,4 methylene-dioxy-n-methylamphetamine which is pronounced three-four methylene dioxy an methyl amphetamine to any one that knows what theyre talking about the name describes what the molecule consists of.
The word methyl is sometimes abbreviated to meth. (the 3,4 indicates the way in which the components of the molecule are joined together, as it is possible to produce an isomer which has all the same components joined differently).
Many people believe that the name implies a mixture of ingredients but this is wrong – just as water is not a mixture of oxygen and hydrogen although its molecule consists of oxygen and hydrogen atoms. like water, MDMA is a compound, not a mixture. So, although the name contains the word amphetamine and the law refers to MDMA as a ‘psychedelic amphetamine’, MDMA contains no amphetamine. The amphetamine-like effects may be related to dopamine release
So when making the drug the precission and accuracy of mesurements have to be perfect. Balanced like a science.
If you have no idea what u are doing, please don’t just ask how to make ‘ecstasy’ for your own personal use, and it’s capsuled for a reason. If swallowed in a powder form. Well lets just say it might cause you some ACID refluxes…
If you guys have any questions you may e-mail me @ CHEMICALCOMPOUDS@HOTMAIL.COM
Please don’t kill yourselves…June 3, 2009 at 8:46 am #708689
Why bother with all that , just get some geletine capsules from a healthfood site and fill them up with whatever you like, in what ever quantities you fancy. They make some pretty big capsules ! Much less hassle.March 26, 2010 at 10:59 pm #708654Louis TherouxParticipant
:group_hugMarch 29, 2010 at 10:47 am #708690
since when was MDMA a hallucinogen?March 29, 2010 at 11:42 am #708645Anonymous
@Iacchus 378090 wrote:
since when was MDMA a hallucinogen?
It’s classed as a hallucinogeninc stymulantMarch 29, 2010 at 12:21 pm #708691
@DaftFader 378095 wrote:
It’s classed as a hallucinogeninc stymulant
only by people who dont know what they’re talking about
it’s actually an entactogenMarch 29, 2010 at 3:41 pm #708686p0lyParticipant
Euphoric Empathogen; Stimulant; Phenethylamine
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