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  • what exactly is mdvp i herd it was stupid but its absolutly not:weee::crazy: is it damaging to my body and how does it work as a long term anti depressant

    MDPV (correct spelling) is a long acting stimulant drug like amfetamine. it may not be particularly damaging to the body or lethal, but large doses it can cause some very unpleasant mental effects.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone

    I would not advise its use (or that of any stimulant) as an antidepressant as its easy to get addicted that way.

    all these chemicals are now crossing the pond as they started being popular in Europe but people what overused them ended up needing various forms of medical treatment. As all European countries have social healthcare and authorities which shares trends of illegal drug use across borders, this stuff has been banned quite quickly in a lot of nations so its manufacturers are looking for new markets such as in the USA.

    There are no long term tests on these research chemicals so I would not rely on them for long term anything until tests have been done. It does however clear your mind very well and help you to concentrate on whatever you are doing.

    No one really knows if any of these research chemicals are damaging to anyone’s body – so ………… user beware!

    Also – I would not use it alone. I would use it though! Mix it with either lidocaine and sniff it or mix with methylone (90% methylone and 10% mdpv) and you can snort or drink it, but the taste is not so good.

    Although no substitute for long term testing, in Europe there has been about 2/3 years of info compiled both by users and the public healthcare authorities and widely publicised.

    if you avoid the mainstream media and look at the scientific/scholarly journals and the more reliable posts on users’ forums, what has become apparent is that these substitutes for amfetamine have a worse effect on some parts of the cardiovascular and circulatory system -i.e the heart and the way blood is pumped to the rest of the body.

    another issue is the nice/fun effects of the drugs are less long lasting than MDMA or standard amfetamine – so people obviously take more in a session than they would of the more illegal substances.

    So although rarely fatal in overdose nor leading to irreversible damage, the side effects of these RC’s can be very unpleasant and frightening. Certainly when the cathinones were legal in the UK a lot of their users eventually ended up in hospital for a bit.

    That said I think the long term mental health effects are more of a risk than the physical ones, but these are shared with the illegal drugs anyway.

    MDPV is pretty short lasting GL also if you read a lot of erowid reports pretty much the majority are stories of people going on month binges and getting very very addicted and ill in a very short space of time. it gives a fucking terrible hangover from very little fun this drug is absolutely terrible and should be avoided at all costs. also the very low dose required is dangerous as well as some fool will come along and think it’s coke or something and sniff a big line.

    i know a group of people who did this with 2c-e who i know, they robbed my mate when he went to sleep (in his own house) thought the wrap on the side was k, well karma got them back after they all (4-5) sniffed a big line of 2c-e one after another and were throwing up shitting themselves for 6 hours scared tripping hard.

    anyone bottom line don’t do mdpv it’s absolute filth, i took it once and got the most awful comedown from 1 line which lasted about 1 hour high wise.

    I’ve seen other reports claiming people are up for days on comparatively small amounts of the stuff, (the insomnia/residual stimulation as well as the “good” bit) though this can of course be due to misjudging doses, repeated redosing and/or contamination (either accidental or deliberate) with other chemicals. I agree with you its nasty stuff and best avoided. I think it was made illegal fairly quickly in this country and few people even complained!

    Its still legal in the US in most states, but many states are trying to pass legislation to outlaw it! I hope not too soon. I really enjoy it!

    where can i purchase the shizzle from?

    :group_hug:razz::ty_ty::cyclop_1:

    Drug dealers…

    Its now illegal in the UK – TBH you would be far better off with normal amfetamine which is the same legal risk and less harsh to the body and mind..

    @General Lighting 439278 wrote:

    Drug dealers…

    Its now illegal in the UK – TBH you would be far better off with normal amfetamine which is the same legal risk and less harsh to the body and mind..

    and actually fun with less comedown! 1 hour of mdpv high for major downer worse than the comedown you get after the 8 hour amphet high.

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